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Awivax.1043
net.general
utzoo!decvax!wivax!ss
Wed Jan  6 14:15:03 1982
not-so-new USENET site
I meant to send this out long ago, sorry.
Name of site: wivax
What the site is all about: Wang Institute of Graduate Studies.  We
are a non-profit, independent graduate school offering an MSE (Masters
in Software Engineering).  We have been in existence since 1979,
although we are currently finishing our second semester of classes.
Name of contact person at site: Sid Shapiro
Electronic mail address of contact person: decvax!wivax!ss
U.S. Mail address of contact person: Wang Institute
				     Tyng Rd.
				     Tyngsboro, MA 01879
Phone number of contact person: (617)649-9731
Systems with whom news articles are exchanged: decvax ( and everybody
else?)
(what kind of link, who the neighbor(s) are): a 1200 baud phone link
using uucp
Willingness (or lack thereof) to connect to new sites that
want to join usenet.  If you run uucp, tell if new sites can
call you, if you will poll them, what your policy is.
If on the arpanet, are you willing to forward news on to new
sites by establishing an arpanet usenet connection?
	We connect via uucp.  We are willing to have others poll us,
	as long as our disks don't get crowded.
	We are probably willing to poll others
	with the above limitation and the additional one of phone
	bills.  I am being vague, but I can't say much more than that
	I guess we are willing to try anything until we find we can't
	do it anymore for any number of reasons.
If you want to publish your uucp phone number, login, and password,
include that info.
	I would prefer to do this on an individual basis.
If there is anything info that anyone would like,
don't hesitate to ask.
[Sid]
>
>
>From evans Fri Dec 18 21:17:51 1981
To: ss
Subject: phone lines
Df03 hasn't been able to make any connect to decvax since Dec 17 midnight.
If a connect was made, you'll have new news, but as of Friday night, there
wasn't any.  I dialed manually and got a tone, then i used the 'cu' program,
and never got a connect.  Same with uucp - nothing.
I was able to do a cu to a local extension, but anything going to the
'outside world' failed, ie. 96499741, etc.  
I hear that we're getting 18 data lines in the comp. room - do you know
when they'll be installed?
[barry]
>
>From mckeeman Sat Dec 19 11:41:08 1981
Date: Sat Dec 19 11:40
From: mckeeman
Subject: dec mail
To: ss
Origin: WIVAX
Now I need to know a buncha addresses.  Like Fuchs.  Is there a
publication?
>
>From ss Mon Dec 21 15:03:34 1981
To: mckeeman
Subject: dec mail
Cc: ss
I just got this in.  It may be the best thing available.  I just sent
our info to a person at berkeley who I thought was compiling a directory.
But was not, was compiling a USENET directory which contains different
info.  But it may be useful anyway.  Anyway this is what I have.  It
is pretty hard to read on a tube, so I have left a hard-copy in your
box.  (You probably got that first and was wondering what it was.)
If Fuchs is at Univ. of North Carolina (if that is UNC on the map) or
Duke, then we can probably get to him using the address-
	decvax!duke[!unc]!fuchs
where the !unc is optional if that is where he is at, and if fuchs is
his user name.  If he is on the main machine.  If he is on some other
machine, we need to know what machine.  We can always try it and see
what we get. (I just called the numbers you gave me and I got
no one who knew the situation.
Anyway here is the info-
>From decvax!duke!chico!teklabs!tekmdp!azure!stevenm Mon Dec 14 11:36:32 1981
(azure.300)    net.general,fa.unix-wizards: Network Map
I have been compiling my own personal netmap for a while, and since
no others have come out recently, I decided to publish this. While
I am here, I would like to reiterate something I mentioned several
months ago: the net is getting too big to map in a pretty visual
manner. What we need is a database of the form:
	site	<NEIGHBOR-LIST>
e.g.	chico	harpo,duke,teklabs,ucbvax,bozo
with the neighbor-list ordered in an arbitrary "decreasing throughput"
order. I am working on a program that will (given this database, your
host name and destination name) provide the "best" path to the other
site. If anybody has ideas for a good cost-function for odering the
list, let me know.
(Note: this does not pretend to be complete, although I would appreciate
corrections and additions from anyone.)
(P.s: Please excuse the large hole in the upper right corner of the map,
but the Tektronix map is considered (sigh) confidential.)
In any case, here is my (last) map:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
  UUCP/USENET Logical Map  -   June 1, 1981 / mods by S. McGeady 11/19/81
            (ucbvax)
+=+===================================+==+
| |                                   |  |
| |                wivax              |  |
| |                  |                |  |
| |         microsoft| uiucdcs        |  |
| |  genradbo      | | |  |           |  |           (Tektronix)
| |     |          | | |  | purdue    |  |
| decvax+===+=+====+=+=+  | |         |  |
|       |   | |      |    | | pur-phy |  |                        tekmdp
|       |   | |      |    | |     |   |  |                           |
+@@@@@@cca  | |      |    | |     |   |  |                           |
|       |   | |  +=pur-ee=+=+=====+===+  |                           |
|    csin   | |  |   |                   |                           |
|           | +==o===+===================+==+========+=======+====teklabs=+
|           |    |                                                        |
|           |    |                    pdp phs   grumpy  wolfvax           |
|           |    |                     |   |      |        |              |
|           | cincy                unc=+===+======+========+              |
|           |   |        bio	   |                                      |
|           |  	|  (Misc) |        |     	(Misc)                    |
|           |   | sii  reed        |    dukgeri duke34  utzoo             |
|           |   |  |    |          |         |   |	 |	          |
|      +====+=+=+==+====++======+==++===duke=+===+=======+==+=========+   |
|      |      |    |     |      |   |                       |         |   | u1100s
|    bmd70  ucf-cs ucf   | andiron  |                       |         |   |   |
|                        |          |                       |         |   |   |
|                  red   |          |                       |         |   | pyuxh
|                   |    |          |     zeppo             |         |   |   |
|       psupdp---psuvax  |          |       |               |         |   |   |
|                   |    |          | alice |   whuxlb      | utah-cs |   | houxf
|                allegra |          | |     |     |         |   |     |   |   |
|  	              |  |          | |     |     |         |   |  +--chico---+
|                 +===+=mhtsa====research   |   /=+=======harpo=+==+     |    |
|                 |   |  |  |               |  /            |            |    |
|               hocsr |  |  +=+=============+=/           cbosg---+      |    |
|    ucbopt           |  |    |                             |     |   esquire |
|       :             |  |    |                           cbosgd  |           |
|       :             |  |    |                                   |           |
|    ucbcory          |  | eagle==+=====+=====+=====+=====+       |           |
|       :             |  |  |     |     |     |     |     |       |  +-uwvax--+
|       :             |  |  |   mhuxa mhuxh mhuxj mhuxm mhuxv     |  |
|       :             |  |  |                                     |  |
|       :             |  |  |        +----------------------------o--+
|       :             |  |  |        |                            |
|    ucbcad           |  |  |      ihpss    mh135a                |
|       :             |  |  |        |         |                  |
|       :             \--o--o------ihnss----vax135----cornell     |
|       :                |  |        |         |                  |
+=+==ucbvax==========+===+==+=+======+=======+=+========+=========+
  (UCB) :            |        |              |          | (Silicon Valley)
     ucbarpa      cmevax      |              |        menlo70--hao
	:                     |              |        |    |
     ucbonyx                  |              |        |   sri-unix
	                      |           ucsfcgl     |
                              |              |        |
Legend:                       |              |      sytek====+========+
-------                       |              |               |        |
- | / \ + = Uucp           sdcsvax=+=======+=+======+     intelqa   zehntel
=           "Bus"                  |       |        |
o           jumps               sdcarl  phonlab  sdcattb
:           Berknet
@           Arpanet
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
S. McGeady
>
>
>From evans Tue Dec 29 22:18:05 1981
To: ss
Subject: mailing and uucp
well, now i'm convinced.  Mail DOES call decvax.  At 10:15 i sent a file
(message) to myself through decvax!wivax and it started dialing, 
connected, and sent the message, and got more news.
...and all this is right at my finger tips...
[barry]
>
>From decvax!ucbvax!CSVAX:MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan  5 19:52:50 1982
To: decvax!wivax!ss
Subject: Unable to deliver mail
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
   ----- Unsent message follows -----
To: decvax!ucbvax!hocda!ho3e2!houxi!ihnss!cbosg!cbosgd!mark
Subject: USENET directory
Cc: decvax\!ucbvax\!hocda\!ho3e2\!houxi\!ihnss\!cbosg\!cbosgd\!cbosg\!ihnss\!houxi\!ho3e2\!hocda\!ucbvax\!decvax\!ss
I sent the following to you some time ago.  From your newsest
list, I take it that you never got it.  Here it is again.  Would
you please acknowledge if you get this.  If I don't hear from
you in a couple of weeks, I will know that something is wrong and
I am not getting through for some reason.
Thanks
Here is a copy of our .sys file anyway.
wivax:ALL,to_wivax
decvax:net.ALL,to_decvax
Here is your form back too.
Name of site: wivax
What the site is all about: Wang Institute of Graduate Studies.  We
are a non-profit, independent graduate school offering an MSE (Masters
in Software Engineering).  We have been in existence since 1979,
although we are currently finishing our second semester of classes.
Name of contact person at site: Sid Shapiro
Electronic mail address of contact person: decvax!wivax!ss
U.S. Mail address of contact person: Wang Institute
				     Tyng Rd.
				     Tyngsboro, MA 01879
Phone number of contact person: (617)649-9731
Systems with whom news articles are exchanged: decvax ( and everybody
else?)
(what kind of link, who the neighbor(s) are): a 1200 baud phone link
using uucp
Willingness (or lack thereof) to connect to new sites that
want to join usenet.  If you run uucp, tell if new sites can
call you, if you will poll them, what your policy is.
If on the arpanet, are you willing to forward news on to new
sites by establishing an arpanet usenet connection?
	We connect via uucp.  We are willing to have others poll us,
	as long as our disks don't get crowded. (I don't know what
	would need to be done to be a link, or what the system
	implications are.)  We are probably willing to poll others
	with the above limitations and the additional one of phone
	bills.  I am being vague, but I can't say much more than that
	I guess we are willing to try anything until we find we can't
	do it anymore for whatever reason.
If you want to publish your uucp phone number, login, and password,
include that info.
	I would prefer to do this on an individual basis.
If there is anything else that you would like, or that I can do,
don't hesitate to ask.
[Sid]
>
>
>From decvax!ucbvax!CSVAX:MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan  6 09:52:44 1982
To: decvax!wivax!ss
Subject: Unable to deliver mail
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
   ----- Unsent message follows -----
To: decvax!ucbvax!hocda!ho3e2!houxi!ihnss!cbosg!cbosgd!mark
Subject: USENET directory list
I am sending you this whole thing because somewhere I suspect
something is screwed up.  I have sent this thing 3 times and I keep
getting it back as undeliverable.  This time I am doing a "reply" to
get it to you.  I hope that this might clear up whatever addressing
problems I am having.  Sorry you have to wade through it, but I would
appreciate it if you could take a look and see if you can see anything
wrong.  If you haven't the time, I understand.  The form is here
anyway.  I hope this gets through.  Thanks,
[Sid]
>
>From decvax!ucbvax!CSVAX:MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan  5 19:52:50 1982
>To: decvax!wivax!ss
>Subject: Unable to deliver mail
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>
>   ----- Unsent message follows -----
>To: decvax!ucbvax!hocda!ho3e2!houxi!ihnss!cbosg!cbosgd!mark
>Subject: USENET directory
>
>Cc: decvax\!ucbvax\!hocda\!ho3e2\!houxi\!ihnss\!cbosg\!cbosgd\!cbosg\!ihnss\!houxi\!ho3e2\!hocda\!ucbvax\!decvax\!ss
>
>I sent the following to you some time ago.  From your newsest
>list, I take it that you never got it.  Here it is again.  Would
>you please acknowledge if you get this.  If I don't hear from
>you in a couple of weeks, I will know that something is wrong and
>I am not getting through for some reason.
>Thanks
>
>
>Here is a copy of our .sys file anyway.
>
>wivax:ALL,to_wivax
>decvax:net.ALL,to_decvax
>
>Here is your form back too.
>
>
>Name of site: wivax
>What the site is all about: Wang Institute of Graduate Studies.  We
>are a non-profit, independent graduate school offering an MSE (Masters
>in Software Engineering).  We have been in existence since 1979,
>although we are currently finishing our second semester of classes.
>
>Name of contact person at site: Sid Shapiro
>Electronic mail address of contact person: decvax!wivax!ss
>U.S. Mail address of contact person: Wang Institute
>				     Tyng Rd.
>				     Tyngsboro, MA 01879
>Phone number of contact person: (617)649-9731
>
>Systems with whom news articles are exchanged: decvax ( and everybody
>else?)
>(what kind of link, who the neighbor(s) are): a 1200 baud phone link
>using uucp
>
>Willingness (or lack thereof) to connect to new sites that
>want to join usenet.  If you run uucp, tell if new sites can
>call you, if you will poll them, what your policy is.
>If on the arpanet, are you willing to forward news on to new
>sites by establishing an arpanet usenet connection?
>	We connect via uucp.  We are willing to have others poll us,
>	as long as our disks don't get crowded. (I don't know what
>	would need to be done to be a link, or what the system
>	implications are.)  We are probably willing to poll others
>	with the above limitations and the additional one of phone
>	bills.  I am being vague, but I can't say much more than that
>	I guess we are willing to try anything until we find we can't
>	do it anymore for whatever reason.
>
>If you want to publish your uucp phone number, login, and password,
>include that info.
>	I would prefer to do this on an individual basis.
>
>
>If there is anything else that you would like, or that I can do,
>don't hesitate to ask.
>
>[Sid]
>
>
>
>
>
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