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EFFector Online           September 11, 1992              Issue  3.04
         A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation
                           ISSN 1062-9424

                      FIGALLO ONLINE AT EFF.ORG

Cliff Figallo became the new director of EFF-Cambridge at the beginning 
of the month.  Former director of The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link (the 
EFF's birthplace), Fig is charged with developing and coordinating the 
Cambridge office's outreach activities, increasing active EFF membership, 
and expanding overall awareness of the EFF's programs in the computer-
conferencing community and the world at large.

Commenting on his new task, Figallo said, "EFF came upon the online scene 
a couple years ago with a big splash.  I'd like for us to continue 
activities in the areas of online civil liberties, sane lawmaking and 
advocacy of improved electronic highways for the future.  I want news of 
these activities to get out to the people for whom we are making a 
the legal, informational and technical resources.  Our purpose is to 
    "More specifically, I will encourage  people to become members of EFF 
by demonstrating to them the value of a membership.  One should expect 
noticeable benefits from paying membership dues and I intend to make it 
become involved in telecommunications.  I will also be working with 
that we can learn together how such affiliations can enhance our mutual 
    "I'm excited about working here.  I believe in what EFF is all about."

Cliff can be reached as fig@eff.org.



Bill Clinton for President Committee * 1317 F Street, NW, Suite 902 *
    Washington DC 20004  Telephone 202-393-3323  FAX 202-393-3329
                 e-mail correspondence@dc.Clinton-Gore.org

    "We face a fundamental economic challenge today:  to create a
the 21st century.  We need a long-term national strategy to meet this
challenge and win.

    "Our productivity and income have been growing so slowly
because we've stopped investing in the economic infrastructure that
binds our markets and businesses together, in the education and
training necessary to give our workers world-class skills, and in the
edge of the world economy.  As a nation, we're spending more on the
view.  As President, I will divide the budget into three parts, creating
a separate 'future budget' for the federal government to make
nvestments that will enrich our country over the long term.  Today
the federal government spends only 9 per cent of the budget on
nvestments for the future; a Clinton Administration will double that.
We will pay for it by diverting resources no longer needed for
R&D goes into R&D for civilian technologies until civilian R&D can
match and eventually surpass our Cold War military R&D commitment.

    "As President, I will create an investment tax credit and a new
enterprise tax cut that rewards those who invest in new businesses
that create new jobs.  I will also make the research and development
tax credit permanent.

    "My administration will create a civilian research and
And without inhibiting the competition that drives innovation, we will
encourage and promote collaborative efforts among firms and with

    "A Clinton Administration will create a high-speed rail network
between out nation's major cities.  And in the new economy,
nfrastructure means information as well as transportation.  More than
ndustries,  yet we have no national strategy to create a national
nformation network.  Just as the interstate highway system in the
classroom and business in America.

    "For small defense manufacturers hit by cuts in defense
conversion loans to help finance their transition, and launch a
Technology Assistance Service -- modeled on the Agricultural
Extension Service -- to provide easy access to the technical expertise
t takes to convert to commercial production.

    "To enjoy the full benefit of these investments, we must do
everything possible to open up markets now closed to American
the European countries to join us in coordinating our macroeconomic
also provide the muscle to open up Japan's markets to competitive U.S.
approach.  We favor a free and open trading system, but if our
competitors won't play by those rules, we will play by theirs.

    "All the investments in the world won't mean much if our
opportunities they create.  My administration will fully fund Head
Start, increase funding for Chapter 1, and provide seed money for
nnovative education projects.  However, we will also raise standards
by establishing a national testing system in elementary and secondary
and school in the nation, to measure their progress.  We will also
create a nationwide apprenticeship program for those young people who
choose not to go to college, and a national trust fund for college loans
for those who do.  These loans will be repaid either as a small 

    "With the strategy I have outlined, we can restore the American
Dream by enabling every citizen and every business to become more


                        by Marilyn Davis, Ph.D.
               Principal Software Engineer and Founder
            The Electronic Democracy Project on EcoNet
     President and Principal Software Engineer, Frontier Systems

One vision of Electronic Democracy is the television show, where we are

Experiments in this type of ED (the QUBE system in Columbus, Ohio, 1977-
characterized as the "big-vote" type of Electronic Democracy.  We are
ndicate our choice, and it's over.  The articles written about these
from all walks of life, but that, in the Canadian experiment, at least,
the results were largely ignored by lawmakers.

Getting our lawmakers to listen to us is one problem with this style of
Electronic Democracy.  Another problem is that it requires us to all
technological inefficiency involved in building a system that is huge
enough to record everyone's nearly simultaneous vote, but, that is only
used for a half-hour per week.

The worst complaint about this style of Electronic Democracy is that it
s not "democracy" from a political theory point of view.  The big-vote
type of Electronic Democracy was criticized in 1982 by Jean Betheke
Elshtain, a political scientist, as being an "interactive shell game
[that] cons us into believing that we are participating when we are
not "democracies", but "plebiscites".  "In a plebiscitary system, the
views of the majority, ..., swamp minority or unpopular views.
carried out under the guise of, or with the connivance of, majority
views. That opinion can be registered by easily manipulated, ritualistic

Another political theorist, Brian Fay, has said about democracy that
activity of a real democracy is discussion, not voting.  In a real
ourselves, re-discuss, and re-poll, until consensus is reached.  Here I

opportunity to bring up new issues, equal opportunity to participate in
every discussion, equal opportunity to vote in every decision, and equal
for Electronic Democracy, we have been trapped away from this ideal by
the necessity for a representative democracy, i.e., a democracy where we
elect representatives who make our decisions, rather than make our

a consensus agreement.

Here (and everywhere), by "consensus", I prefer Webster's New Twentieth
Century Dictionary, unabridged, definition that says, "unanimity;
agreement, especially in opinion; hence, general opinion." Random House
mplies "unanimity".

More practically, by "consensus", I mean the style of consensus
agree - or, at least, no one disagrees.  You may "stand-out" of the vote
f you still disagree with an action, but don't wish to block the group.

Our computer networks offer the only means to implement a method of
organization and decision-making where these ideals can be efficiently

Although the number of on-line participants is growing fast, still there
are only an elite few of us.  The first tenet of an ideal democracy
#1 becomes a national priority, it would also provide an economic
alternative for some of our dependence on technical weapon-making.

Each of us, who is a member of a BBS community, has equal opportunity to
ntroduce and discuss issues, but very limited decision-making tools.
Even so, these systems are proving themselves to be powerful political
tools.  In Santa Monica, where there is a city-provided computer network
lawmakers into opening the public beach showers in the early morning so
that the homeless can clean up and possibly find work.  On the
Association for Progressive Communications (APC) networks, EcoNet,
of saving the planet.

conferencing systems, can add voting to their list of features.
"eVote", vote-keeping software from Frontier Systems, will be available
for integration into these systems.  This software will enable the on-
line communities to take votes and polls, to spend budgets

Most C/Unix-based conferencing systems maintain a number of conferences;
each conference is a discussion about one narrow (or broad) subject.  To
organize the discussion, each conference has a list of "topics",
conference grows. Each topic has a number of "messages", also posted by
users, that carry the thread of the conversation on the topic.

When eVote comes on line, votes will be taken at the "topic" level only,
not on messages.  This means that you will always be able to add a
message when you vote, to qualify or explain it.

The list of topic titles for a particular conference appears on the
"index screen".  When eVote is in place, the index screen will also list
collected on the topic, the number of voters and average vote.

The user who originates the topic dictates the format for the vote: 
the following 10".  The voting can be configured so that users can
change their votes and see how others voted.  These are essential
features for enabling consensus and/or for emulating an in-person

The "Vote for 3 of the following 10" feature can be used to
"Distribute your 100ED-bucks among the following 20 proposals".  The
according to the group's average distribution.  This then, is a
mechanism for determining and carrying out group decisions without

A group can decide to spend money on a political campaign.  The
Electronic Democracy candidate would be a figure-head who, if elected,
makes all the decisions of the office according to the decisions of the
on-line group.

This computer-networked, discussion-dominated, type of Electronic
Democracy provides both tenets of an ideal democracy:  equal power, and
consensus facilitation.  In addition, we can democratically direct funds,
thereby facilitating an ideally democratic process from the first
expression of a new idea, all the way through discussion and decision-
making, to implementation by spending the money.

magine that it will work in small on-line groups of similar mind (like
the EcoNet community).  Mathematics and computer science will provide
algorithms to insure that each group deals fairly with other groups
nto software.  Because we will be starting with small groups, we won't
confront big decisions until we've built the software to coalesce our
There can be no danger in it.


A seminal difficulty of our species, is the struggle we each face with
two distinct, universal, and somewhat opposing human drives.  The first
s our need, or at least our expectation, that we should have "self-
against despots throughout history.  Our struggles with the "terrible
two's" and "troubled teens" can be interpreted as our struggle to
apparently opposing need:  the need to belong to groups.

To survive, we must conform to the expectations of our parents and of
our cultures, and compromise our sense of self-determination for a sense
of security, and for the love of others.  We must organize ourselves
nto groups; there must be some method of decision-making, and of
carrying out those decisions.

Electronic Democracy offers a path of reconciliation for these two
can fully materialize our dreams of self-determination.

But, how can we know if we should take this path?  How can we know if we
can trust our collective human nature?  The concept is so radical, how
can we know if it is right?

Luckily, living on islands, and deep in the rain forests of Panama, are
the Cuna Indians, who can serve as a model of a consensus-run culture.


These amazing Indians, 40,000 in number, have been making decisions, by
consensus, since before Columbus discovered them on his fourth voyage.
Because the Cuna have been living for centuries in the only truly

There is very little literature about the Cuna.  However, from ALL
accounts, they are well-organized, harmonious, wise, resourceful,
energetic, playful, gentle, astute, even enlightened.

But how do such innocents fair in dealings with the rest of the world? 
The Cuna are possibly the only unconquered native Americans, still
living on, and in control of, their homeland.  They won a short war with

Although non-Cuna Panamanians may not participate in the affairs of the 
Cuna, some Cuna work and study in Panama City, and have been elected to 
offices in the Panamanian government.

While preserving their own culture, which they value more than money,
the Cunas capitalize on the world market for their "molas", the colorful 
fabric art pieces that the women sew.

A connection between the Cunas' consensus-run politics and their obvious
enlightenment, their unity, their individuality, and their strength is
evident here.  As we, through Electronic Democracy, claim our earth and
our rights, we will become like the Cunas:  free.  As Electronic
Democracy replaces our old political systems, and our strengths as
ndividuals and as communities grow, we will experience a profound, even
miraculous, change in human attitudes in most cultures.

Of course, it's a big leap from our current reality to imagining
ourselves, like the Cuna, loving our system of organization for its
fairness and responsiveness, and for making us feel heard, and for
making us feel powerful.

tempting us to be influenced by clothes, or speech impediments, or age,
or a thousand other irrelevancies.  We'll base our decisions only on the
content of what is written.  We'll make excellent decisions.

Like the Cuna, WE will BE our system.

This tool has been waiting for us, in our future; like speech once
for us to discover our ability and invent language.  Given our manual
Electronic Democracy is inevitable.

technological advances that this system is being built upon, we are a
for civic organization are buckling under the pressures of bad

Electronic Democracy is an answer.  There is no other. Electronic
Democracy is inevitable. Our deepest natures hunger for it.  The
quicker we adopt Electronic Democracy as our system of civic
organization, the less total suffering there will be.


Becker, Ted, "Teledemocracy - Bringing Power Back to People", The
Futurist, December, 1981, p.6.

Elgin, Duane, "Conscious Democracy Through Electronic Town Meetings",
Whole Earth Review, Summer, 1991, p.28.

Elshtain, Jean Betheke, "Interactive TV - Democracy and the QUBE Tube",
The Nation, August 7-14, 1982, p.108.

Hallowell, Christopher, "A World of Difference", Americas, Jan.-Feb,

Mazlow, Jonathan, "A Tramp in the Darien", a B.B.C. Adventure Series 
Documentary, 1990.

Moran, Julio, "Computers Forge PEN Pal Link", Los Angeles Times, Feb 25,

Myers, Norman, "Kuna Indians, Building a Bright Future", International 
Wildlife, July-Aug., 1987, p.17

Wirpasa, Leslie, "Panamanian Indians Evangelize Evangelizers", National 
Catholic Reporter, Mar 8, 1991, p.8.

Wittig, Michele, Ph.D., "Using a City-Owned Public Electronic Network
for Community Organizing", American Psychological Association, Division

Wittig, Michele, "Electronic City Hall",Whole Earth Review, Summer 1991,


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