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Just to keep you posted...

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From-: research!ehg (Eric Grosse, 201-582-5828)

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Subject: FHT legalities

Fast Hartley Transform and the Trustees of Stanford are licensing it.

What does this imply about netlib's (free) distribution of your code?

Should I withdraw it?

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>From research!csnet!sierra.stanford.edu!BUNEMAN Thu 30 Jul 87 20:56:07-PDT

From: Oscar Buneman 

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Subject: FHT legalities

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Eric Grosse:

   Our reaction to Ron Bracewell's success over patenting an algorithm (not

a machine) has been generally favorable. We do not think that it means the

algorithm can only be sold (not freely distributed). I see no difference

between patenting and copyrighting an idea. Both simply mean acknowledging

authorship. I am sure Ron Bracewell would be the first to raise objections

f you withdrew my FAST HARTLEY TRANSFORM from netlib distribution. I wonder

copyright somewhere or other! Is the law going to come after us because we

are freely copying such material into and out of NETLIB?

   Notice, by the way, that patents and copyrights provide financial benefits,

f any, to the author's institution and very rarly or minimally to the

author himself! In our case, the encouragement to try and patent the algorithm,

and the initiative, came from the university.

   I must admit that sooner or later there will be some serious trouble over

acknowledgment of their authorship.

   Oscar Buneman

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>From research!csnet!star1.stanford.edu!BRACEWELL Mon 3 Aug 87 15:33:44-PDT

From: "Ronald N. Bracewell" 

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Subject: Hartley Legalities

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     The Hartley algorithm has been published by the IEEE Proceedings and by 

Oxford University Press, with copyright statements attached.  If you are 

concerned, telephone Lisa Kuuttila (pron. KOO-tila) of Stanford Office of 

Technology Licensing at (415) 723-0651.

                              R.N. BRACEWELL

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Kuuttila says that Stanford retains the copyright and patent and that a

license agreement is probably needed for netlib.  But if Prof. Bracewell

She says that she will contact Bracewell and then get back to me.

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