high weirdness by email send

Found at: 0x1bi.net:70/textfiles/file?internet/weird2_1.txt

high weirdness by email v2.1  send info and errata to: mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu
This version *supersedes* previous "editions"; they may safely be deleted
without loss of important information.
As always, this is coming out in a rush, so there are probably lots of holes,
etc. Also, this is a rather long document, and unless you have some sort of
keyword search you may have trouble finding what you're after. I am hoping to
get a hypertext version of this woven into the WorldWideWeb some day [telnet
info.cern.ch and look around] but dont hold your breath. In the mean time
just delete what you dont want. IF YOU ARE GOING TO ARCHIVE THIS OR REPRODUCE

At the last minute, trying to put something together for release, I have
simply joined together some "unprocessed" files - they describe:
i] some things from the slopoke ftp site
ii] contents of the red.css political archive [ftp]
iii] scott yanoff's internet resource list
iv] an IRC FAQ
v] some stuff 'left over' from the future-culture FAQ
vi] cult of the dead cow newfiles
vii] ftp.rahul.net archive contents
viii] email addresses for sf fan groups
In the interests of getting info out, etc, this hodgepodge is going out in a
separate file - if anyone wants to archive it as well, & you're on a dos
system, I suggest weird2-1.doc and weird2-1.sup as file names.

if you see something in the unseen category & want to write a review, send it
to me, say whether you want your name used, etc.

A  general note: the "best" general net guides are in my opinion
the FutureCulture FAQ (see cyberpunk section) & the Scott Yanoff guide
(appended to this document).
For hardcopy, try the books by Krol and LaQuey, and watch out for Howard
Rheingold's new book on the Internet...

And speaking of books... Have a look at the novella "Voices", by the
mysterious "Scotto", available via ftp from penguin.gatech.edu,
/pub/leri/text/stories, work. and work2..

The listed topics are:



In places I hav cannibalized both Scott Yanoff's listing of internet resources
[reproduced in full at the end] and a list of mailing lists which appeared on
news.lists, I think.

On Usenet there is talk.religion.misc [basically = talk.religion.christian],
and soc.religion.*, alt.atheism[.moderated], bit.listserv.christia, and also
(I think) alt.ahmadiyya. Also talk.religion.newage, alt.religion.kibology.

worldwide church of god - if youre a member- mailing list

    Contact: bahai-faith-request@oneworld.wa.com (Charles W. Cooper II)
gatewayed to soc.religion.bahai on Usenet

Buddha-l     lisserv@ulkyvm.bitnet              "scholarly" in orientation
high traffic       = ulkyvm.louisville.edu

Forum on Indian and Buddhist studies [listname BUDDHIST?]

    Contact: lds-request@decwrl.dec.com	   -or-    decwrl!lds-request
    Purpose: a forum for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of
    Latter-day Saints (mormons) to discuss church doctrine, mormon
    culture and life in general.  Non-members are welcome to join, but
    we're not interested in flame wars.  

subdirectories: buddhism-gen, -tib, -viet, -zen; shamanism; taoism.
look at /buddhism-zen/zen-email-directory.txt; email addresses of several
dozen individuals or organizations interested in zen, all around the world.

    Contact: st0o+SDA@andrew.cmu.edu (Steve Timm)
for and about Seventh-day Adventists. moderated. Anyone may post or subscribe.

Secular Humanist Group
    Contact: secular-humanist-request@sugar.neosoft.com (Jim Thompson)
    Purpose: to provide a moderated forum for the discussion of secular
    lifestyles and philosophies among atheists, agnostics, and secular
    humanists.  Theists may join the list; however, proselytizing and
    debates over God and religion will be referred to more appropriate

jim@hsf.uab.edu - starting biblical studies over email
mail him with Subject: BSG

"The Religious Studies Publications Journal - CONTENTS is an electronic
journal that disseminates table of contents, abstracts, reviews and
ordering information on new and recent print and electronic publications
of relevance to Religious Studies.
  "Electronic subscriptions are free; to subscribe, send a mail message to
Listserv@uottawa or listserv@acadvm1.uottawa.ca with the text:
    Inquires regarding the CONTENTS project should be sent to the project
director: Michael Strangelove <441495@Uottawa> or <441495@Acadvm1.Uottawa.CA>

The first edition of Michael Strangelove's _The Electric
Mystic's Guide to the Internet: A Complete Bibliography of
Networked Electronic Documents Online Conferences, Serials,
Software and Archives Relevant to Religious Studies_, is now
available via FTP as a Postscript, WordPerfect and low ascii
file (also available via Listserv).  Volume One is  64 pages
Volumes Two and Three will be released between October and December.
This bibliography is freely available via the international
academic networks (BITNET/Internet) from the CONTENTS Project
fileserver via FTP from the node panda1.uottawa.ca
( in the directory /pub/religion/ as the files
[in PostScript, WP5.1, "low ascii" forms"]
It is also available as a low ascii text via the CONTENTS
Project Listserv fileserver as MYSTICS V1-TXT from
Listserv@uottawa or Listserv@acadvm1.uottawa.ca

Right_Use_of_Will@kether.webo.dg.com, will@kether.webo.dg.com
books of Ceanne DeRohan, dictated by god - help save the universe
low traffic list

URANTIAL  listserv%UAFSYSB.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu - sub urantial your_name
the urantia book - available at better occult bookstores everywhere
- logfiles available for subscribers:
> ... for bitnet account persons, the following works:
>       tell listserv at uafsysb get urantial log9xxx
> filling in the x's of course with the year and month of your choice;
> archive logs are monthly.  Perhaps someone more familiar with the
> internet can specify retrieval from that network.  I think the
> protocol is to send mail to    listserv@uafsysb.uark.edu
>       with the simple command:       get urantial log9xxx
I joined with a pretty negative attitude, and I still havent read the Urantia
Book, but I like what I have seen on this list.

zendo-request@lysator.liu.se **
applied Zen Buddhism

alt.pagan  alt.magick  alt.satanism  alt.horror.cthulhu, alt.necromicon

Temple of Set
- heaps of files on the Temple of Set, including the complete ToS reading list
and a number of documents on internal orders, have recently been uploaded to
slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com  /pub/incoming/set
quartz.rutgers.edu /pub/set
I am impressed by what I have seen of the "Setian philosophy", compared to
most occult approaches.

    Contact: grass-server@wharton.upenn.edu
    Purpose: The GRASS (Generic Religions and Secret Societies)
    mailing list is a forum for the development of religions and
    secret societies for use in role-playing games. Both real-world
    and fictional religions and secret societies are covered. GRASS is
    an erratic volume, high signal-to-noise, mailing list.
    To subscribe, send mail to the CONTACT address with a subject of
    SUBSCRIBE Charlie Bucket. (Use your own name instead of Charlie's

    Contact: pagan-request@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Stacey Greenstein)
    Purpose: To discuss the religions, philosophy, etc. of paganism.

gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu  /pub/wicca

Divination Web - a MUCK - telnet seismo.soar.cs.cmu.edu 9393
thanks to the efforts of Moonchilde, Fr.Nigris, Bran and who knows who else,
one of the more interesting MU*s i have seen has come into being... there's an
internal Tree of Life structure as well as a 'wheel' which I havent explored,
and a fascinating crowd of people there [whenever theres anyone on].

pagan-request@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (not seen by me)

grind.isca.uiowa.edu (
you can telnet to this ftp site, login iscabbs - file descriptions appear
whenever you list the directory contents.
	/info/misc [contains files Wicca1, Wicca2, kama (sutra)]

/pub/topy-online  Temple ov Psychick Youth
(submitted by timbomb@cs.uq.oz.au)
Ihavebeen told that these files will soon be lost, but that TOPY / OTO
informationwill be availavle via ftp from netcom.com [unseen]

nic.funet.fi / ftp.funet.fi
  /pub/doc/occult - Necronomicon - Voynich MS

	 comments by Anon of Ibid:
	    * This site has lots of Crowley texts and gifs, including the
	    *complete* texts of the Book of Lies, Book of the Law, Book 4,
	    Magick in Theory and Practice, Magick Without Tears, and some
	    (or all) copies of the Equinox. (Crowley's magickal journal/
	    zine/publication type thing) All this stuff is in directory
	     /pub/magick/incoming. But there's lots more than Crowley stuff.
	    Check this site out.
[Back to me:]
Also worth perusing are wilson.on.cis, an online conference with RAWilson as
guest participant, and cybercraft, which contains an exposition of Leary's
8-circuit model. ALSO, copies of the Equinox are retailing where I live
for about $700 (for 10 vols.) at present. You could probably make yourself
same money, and do yourself a favor, and violate some sort of copyright law
by printing copies of the Equinox based on the slopoke material.
  In fact the whole slopoke site is just one of the best. They have an old
alt.slack archive (old*slack!), extensive Notes on Kabbala that you won't
find anywhere else, the Principia Discordia.


alt.slack alt.discordia alt.religion.kibology
alt.spam coming soon to a newsserver near you

PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA - found all over the place and posted to alt.discordia
every week or so, it seems - transcribed by Druel the Chaotic - send fanmail
to MPYTHON@gnu.ai.mit.edu

Subgenius-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu **
your daily fix of slack

/pub/alt.religion.kibology - archives for the newsgroup
  ark.655.Z & kibo-for-prez look interesting, but i can't decompress them
Mail kibo@world.std.com for the kiboheader source code - have an
"X-Kib0-Says:" in all your email - this code is also in the archives.

Church of Spam
newcomers but ambitious - already setting up alt.spam
Spamist archives can be found at quartz.rutgers.edu, /pub/subgenius/spam
----------------------- io20650@maine.maine.edu ---------------------
*** Daerr - High Spreader of Spam, Church of Spam (Gavin Edition) ***
"I Spam, therefore I am" - Gavin      "Spam sects unite under Gavin!"
  "We have billions of members, but most of them don't know it yet"

PURPS - The Purple Thunderbolt of Spode - the newsletter of the Otisians.
An excellent compilation.
Contact the Pope, jstevens@world.std.com, for info on the Otisian directory.
Also contact Mal@socpsy.sci.fau.edu for info on the "junk mail" list.
All back issues of Purps archived, quartz.rutgers.edu /pub/journals/Purps.

SLACK@ncsu.edu - home of the Holy Temple of Mass Consumption - don't know
if they send out copies of their (excellent) ezine on request, but it
appears regularly on Usenet anyway, and is archived at quartz.rutgers.edu

houk@cs.athena.mit.edu - Moot News for Modern Man v1, subG stuff

request@fennec.sccsi.com - Worldview / Weltanschauung - weirdness, future
tech, subgenius stuff - read about this in the future-culture FAQ (see
mailing lists) but i have been unable to reach them - anyhow it is
archived at ftp.eff.org, /pub/cud/wview
- had the proper address and lost it! check the FC FAQ

version 1, Travelling Scriptures of the Church of V/R

One final note for now, but only for those who've persisted all the way
through this. If you're interested in these sorts of ideas, but with a
Discordian/SubGenius sort of slant, you might want to try ploughing through
the "Travelling Scriptures of the Church of Virtuality\Reality", or the
Scriptures of V\R for short. Principia Discordia mixed with equal parts of LSD
and MUD. You can get them (there's about 1 Meg of text so far) via anonymous
ftp from:
  quartz.rutgers.edu  /pub/Scripture/scripture.000 ... scripture.007
  ftp.css.itd.umich.edu /zines/Scripture/ (as above)
  slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com  /pub/weirdness/ (as above).Z
scripture.000 is the introductory "volume".

quartz.rutgers.edu  /pub
  get the CONTENTS file to see how *much* there is on here! also,
there's an automatic decompression thingy for any file ending .Z, so you
can ftp-by-mail even *those* ones! /pub/subgenius contains a bob.gif, plus
lots of other SubG stuff; and of course they have the Principia Discordia.
/pub/journals has *heaps* of stuff, FutureCulture, m00se Illuminati (for
info on *them* mail dickson@hartford.bitnet), Purps (the Purple
Thunderbolt of Spode, the Otisian newsletter (see above)), other stuff I
forget right now.
in /pub/subgenius try slack.news [authentic newspaper article featuring
interview with Stang] and prescrip [the complete Subgenius prescriptures].

alt.alien.visitors alt.paranormal alt.dreams alt.oobe / alt.out-of-body

ftp.uni-kl.de  /pub/pc/incoming
bgft300a.zip  can someone tell me what this is? is Bigfootf working for the
Committee of 300 now?

infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com - "Subscribe" in subject line - you will
  get info from Paranet Information Service

psi-l  listserv%rpicicge@vm1.nodak.edu  SUB PSI-l the_usual
contact bgeer%hampvms.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (not seen by me)

  "Our research group is currently investigating reports and sightings of
the animal known as "Bigfoot" or "Sasquatch".
o Leave a private message in electronic mail:
  ai065@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thomas Hill)
 Contact with us can be totally anonymous if you wish. We are especially
interested in Ohio sightings but are by no means limited to
investigations in that state. Please, serious responses only." [ie SubGenii:
nothing about Tibetan Yetis from Atlantis] (from the alt.alien.visitors FAQ)

the Federation is making a starflight drive - email here for details

rutkows@ccu.umanitoba.ca (from the alt.alien.visitors FAQ)
available on an experimental basis by email - "The Swamp Gas Journal
covers a variety of scientific UFO-related phenomena" - various reviews

maintains a personal archive of alt.alien.visitors traffic since July 13,
1992 - portions available on request - *not* available via ftp as yet

grind.isca.uiowa.edu (
you can telnet to this ftp site, login iscabbs - file descriptions appear
whenever you list the directory contents.
	/info/paranet [UFO digests from Paranet Information Service]

skeptic%yorkvm1.bitnet@vm1.nodak.edu  SUB SKEPTIC your_fullname
(not seen by me)

ftp.uiowa.edu /archive/aav

from the alt.alien.visitors FAQ - an excellent document! possibly the best
reference for ufo-info sources of its size ever prepared - comments here
are from that FAQ

  The file is pub/UFO/bibliography.Z It has books by author, a second
  listing by date, and also the names of prominent authors in the field.
For more information contact: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)

phoenix.oulu.fi ( /pub/ufo_and_space_pics
  - phoenix UFO pics

NASA Pics Sites
NOTE: the material at these sites is exceedingly voluminous;
I'd strongly suggest just getting the CD-ROMs instead of attempting
to transfer scores of gigabytes of pix and other material.
To access the online catalog of NASA material, CD-ROMS, et cetera:
	telnet nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
	login as "NODIS"
	no password

Anonymous ftp sites (five):
nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov []
	This is a VAX/VMS box, so you must ftp-login as "anonymous".  To get
	a dir listing into a file on your system:
	ftp> dir [...] file_on_your_system
     lots of stuff, including Aliens of all colors, and UFO pix (though this
	seems to mirror a lot of what's at phoenix.oulu.fi and has some
	additional material).
	online copies of what appears to be all NASA's CD-ROMs, and lots of
	GIFs, *.img and *.jpg from most (all?) space missions since Apollo.
	dunno; it appears to be down today (Saturday, 18-July-1992).
ummts.cc.umich.edu {changed to} archive.umich.edu
	apparently popular (and, hence, slow).  Is supposed to have many
	NASA and Voyager data files.

at stycx.hacktic.nl (+31-3404-59551) there is a public account [login repm12,
passwd zebra] for the [anonymous]sharing of MJ12 information  /pub/ufo-and-space-pics/alen-47.jpg   Roswell alien doll

[unchanged from HWbE v1.1]

>From donnell@mermaid.micro.umn.edu Thu Oct 29 09:32:01 1992
Two guys here. Judex  worships
squids and spreads their "gospel". Your Heinous is a computer fiend and
headbanger extrodinaire. Trade your weirdness for theirs. B}
Judex is also a music and movie trivia buff, and a good source for such.

>From corleyj@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU Wed Oct 28 11:31:29 1992
In Robert Anton Wilson's _Illuminatus! Trilogy_, he describes
a process used by Discordians, Erisians and Anarchists against
governments, corporations and in general, The Establishment.
This process involves sending many letters from different
parts of the country/world and is called Operation Mindfuck.
With the advent of e-mail, Operation Mindfucks are much more
easily coordinated.  One such network can be joined by e-mailing
corleyj@gas.uug.arizona.edu.  Networks are set up around
communal responsibility.  Everyone agrees to participate in
everyone else's Mindfuck.  If A helps B Fuck the IRS, then when
B wants to Fuck the Department of Defense, A is obliged to help.
Hail Eris!  All Hail Discordia!

>Join the Church of V/R and help save the world in your spare time!
Write Larysa.Fabok@launchpad.unc.edu for information.

and look for #cIRCle on IRC!


alt.folklore.computers has something like a 1000-person
whos.who.on.the.net list. I don't know if it is archived but it
reappears there periodically

from HWbE v1.1:
>From: The Saint of Self Abuse
   I dunno if it counts but we have a really vocal, extreme right-wing
paranoid fundamentalist Christian who got a Bboard named after him out
here at CMU.  He frequently posts more than four posts in a day and we
already have somebody at MIT mocking the guy and it may be a national
thing because this guy is 100% all-American Christian fundie right wing
    Anyway,  the Bboard is assocs.collegerepublicans.intolerant_assholes
@ andrew.cmu.edu and our "friend" is Dave Byler: db7n @ andrew.cmu.edu
    He may not be weird enough for this list,  but he responds to
EVERYTHING and claims such things as:
    1.  There is an International Communist Conspiracy
    2.  Sen. Macarthy was right
    3.  Al Gore plans to save the earth by depopulating it
    4.  Liberalism = Nazism
    5.  You're all going to Hell
Maybe he is weird enough....

idealord@dorsai.com - home of IdEAl OrdEr Psychic TV
There's a blurb for IdEAL OrdEr which is supposed to go here but I dont seem
to have it to hand! Basically IdEAl OrdEr allegedly and mysteriously interfere
with the blinking rates of various TV personalities, mostly newsreaders but
they also 'zapped' the final US presidential debate. They also have an 'art'
aspect which I don't know about. Jeff harrington of IdEAl OrdEr seems to be on
just about every interesting mailing list there is; so although I cant vouch
for the reality of the phenomenon I can say that IO is definitely hip to a lot
of things....
anyone know the home of nU wORLD oRDER Psychic Usenet?

carasso@inference.com - dfqfrby@shoes.BELL-ATL.COM, jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
& millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU all have personal archives of some of the best of
carasso, and probably the man himself does too
- dont know what carasso's doing - I dont read talk.bizarre at all, but there
was a crossposted thread in alt.religion.kibology the other day with "CARASSO:
SOMETHING SOMETHING" in the subject line, so I presume he's still out there..

pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu - "Public Enemy #1" - the guy who earned the sysop of
Nyx a visit from the Secret Service. you should be able to read about it at
slopoke ftp site, hmm, i think in /pub/weirdness/secserv

/netcel - Net celebrities archive


 -Am. Philos. Assoc.	telnet atl.calstate.edu or telnet
   offers:  BBS for APA.  (Login: apa)

belief-l (not seen by me) - send subscribe belief-l your_name to
  doubts.napoleon?? [if not enquire sci.skeptic] an 1819 article explaining
  why Napoleon might not have existed

derrida  listserv@cfrvm.bitnet  subscribe derrida full_name
(not seen by me)

fnord-l@UBVM.bitnet (I think - dont know internet address) - New Ways of
  Thinking  List - created as forum to discuss the ideas of Wilson, Leary,
  Alli and the like, but to my mind it has degenerated somewhat
yo! owing to discussions with a source who shall remain anonymous, I have a
new respect for fnord-l, as 'net performance art'...

hegel@VILLVM.BITNET  ????

lojban-list-request@snark.thyrsus.com (not seen by me)
why bother with esperanto?
    Purpose: To use, discuss, and contribute to the development of the
    constructed human language called Lojban (known in earlier
    versions as Loglan).  Lojban has a grammar based on predicate
    logic, and vocabulary built from the six most widely spoken human
    languages.  It is intended as a tool for experimental linguistics,
    as a medium for communication with computers, and as a possible
    international auxiliary language.

    Lojban-list is an unmoderated mail reflector.  New subscribers are
    asked to send their postal mailing addresses as well, so that they
    can be placed on the mailing list of The Logical Language Group,
    Inc., a non-profit organization.  The postal mailing list provides
    materials that are useful in learning about the language.
    Lojban-list and LLG, Inc. are in no way affiliated with The Loglan
    Institute, Inc., or with James Cooke Brown, the founder of Loglan.

Subject: INFO: Mailinglist for Neuro Linguistic Programming
From: citrus!vector0!jon@csusac.ecs.csus.edu  (Dazed N. Confused)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 13:13:05 PST

     Recently posted to alt.config..

}From: taz@momad.li.ny.us (Jon Nowak)
}Subject: Neuro Linguistic Programming
}There is now a mailing list available for those who are interested in learning
}about Neuro-Linguistic Programming, and for those who just are curious.
}To join the mailing list, simply send e-mail to SERVER@Momad.LI.NY.US
}with the following line in your email:
}Very simple, eh?  And if you join the list, but then decide you don't want to
}remain on the list, all you have to do is send e-mail to the same address,
}Server@momad.li.ny.us, with the command:
}in your message.   When you join, you will automatically receive the
}help file for the NLP Mailing List.  Please join today.  After all, it's free
}ain't it?   Seriously, if you have an interest in NLP, please use the
}mailing list, rather than wasting bandwidth on Alt.Hypnosis (which is *NOT* for


nsp-l@RPIECS.BITNET  Noble Savage Philosophy ???

    Contact:  objectivism-request@vix.com  (Paul Vixie)
    Purpose:  A mailing list where students of Objectivism can discuss
    their ideas, concrete issues, exchange news, etc.  Any issue that
    may have some relevance to Objectivists is appropriate here.
objectivism-request@vixie.sf.ca.us **
objectivism discussion list - seems to be fairly low traffic - to access the
archives mail objectivism-listserv@vix.com with the single-line msg 'help'

    Contact: objectivism-request@twwells.com (T. William Wells)
    Purpose: A mailing list for discussion of the philosophy of
    Objectivism. This is not a general Objectivism mailing list;
    discussions are restricted to the philosophy itself.

Let me add a little rant here expressing my annoyance that
talk.philosophy.objectivism was voted down. WHY did you vote 'no', those of
you who did? "Oh, I'm tired of the newsgroup hierarchies fragmenting." Pfah!
If you're not interested in Objectivism you wouldnt have had to read the
newsgroup. And if you _were_ interested in Objectivism, and voted against it..
I don't understand you _at all_.

    Contact: pkd-list-request@wang.com
    Purpose: The discussion of the works and life of Philip K. Dick
    (1928-1982), one of the world's most unusual science fiction writers.
    Topics include his books and stories, and books and stories about him
    and his life; however, discussion can (of necessity) branch out into
    the nature of reality, consciousness and religious experience.
not responding to my inquiries, unfortunately
they have now! took em 3 months, but I'm on. this one goes in spurts. I'm more
interested in the later Valis stuff, but theres also discussion of Dick's
earlier works, for those who find the gnostic overtones of the later ones

PMC-TALK - discussion forum for PMC list (=postmodern culture?)
PMC@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu is the editors' address
an incredible range of files: poetry, postmodern ecology, "stemmatics",
James Joyce, mail art, Gulf War, concepts of time, everyday aesthetics,
logs of 2 years' worth of discussions - just looking at the titles I
can't guess what some of them are about. Send for PMC-TALK GUIDE for
proper info.
"... if you need PMC-TALK GUIDE and don't know how to get it,
send the following one-line mail message to LISTSERV@NCSUVM (on
Bitnet) or to LISTSERV@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU (on Internet):
Note that there should be no blank lines before this line, and no
other text or lines in the message.  The instructions you will
receive are the same as those distributed to new subscribers of
journal, and will enable you to retrieve files on your own."

comp.* bionet.*

    Contact: alife-request@cognet.ucla.edu
    Purpose: The alife mailing list is for communications regarding
    artificial life, a formative interdisciplinary field involving
    computer science, the natural sciences, mathematics, medicine and
    others.  The recent book _Artificial Life_, Christopher Langton, ed.,
    Addison Wesley, 1989 introduces the scope of artificial life as a field
    of study.  Alife was chartered in February 1990 at the Second Artificial
    Life Workshop, held in Santa Fe & organized by the Center for Nonlinear
    Studies at the Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Santa Fe
    Institute.  The list is intended primarily for low-volume, high-content
    scientific correspondence and as a publically accessible forum for the
    interested members of the public.  Membership as of July 1990 includes
    over 1,200 addresses on four continents.  There is an FTP-accessible
    archives/repository of past traffic, software and papers.  The list
    is maintained by the Artificial Life Research Group, Computer Science
    Department, Lindley Hall 101, Indiana University Bloomington, IN 47405.
    There are conditions on redistribution of the list in order to minimize
    any misunderstanding or exaggeration concerning this new area of study.

anneal-request@cs.ucla.edu (not seen by me) - simulated annealng
    Purpose: Discussion of simulated annealing techniques and
    analysis, as well as other related issues (stochastic
    optimization, Boltzmann machines, metricity of NP-complete move
    spaces, etc).
    Membership is restricted to those doing active research in
    simulated annealing or related areas.  Current membership is
    international, and about half of the members are published
    authors.  The list itself is unmoderated.

    Contact: skunk-works-request@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu
    Purpose: Discuss Lockheed special project planes, particular the
    Blackbird (A-12, YF-12 and SR-71) and U-2 programs.

cellular-automata-request@think.com (not seen by me)

CRYONICS list - contact kqb@whscad1.att.com
    Contact: ...att!whscad1!kqb  -or-  kqb@whscad1.att.com   (Kevin Q. Brown)
    Purpose: Cryonic suspension is an experimental procedure whereby
    patients who can no longer be kept alive with today's medical
    abilities are preserved at low temperatures for treatment in the
    future.  This list is a forum for topics related to cryonics,
    which include biochemistry of memory, low temperature biology,
    legal status of cryonics and cryonically suspended people,
    nanotechnology and cell repair machines, philosophy of identity,
    mass media coverage of cryonics, new research and publications,
    conferences, and local cryonics group meetings.

cybsys-l (not seen by me) - presumably cybernetic systems
listserv@bingvaxu.cr.birminghamton.edu - sub cybsys-l full_name

cypherpunks@toad.com - rapidly growing list on public key encryption
and related issues [also see alt.security.pgp, and

NEWS: formation of future-tech list
  Hi, welcome to Future-tech!
This mailing list is in the process of being born, so all suggestions
are welcome! List management is currently done by hand, so please
excuse any bumps until I get the bugs out. Please forward me a copy
of any bounces, thanks! (I think I fixed the first problem)
  Here's Rough Draft #1 of a charter:
  This list is for discussing science fact and science future,
current discoveries and hypothetical possibilities. News tidbits,
speculation, and longer essays are all welcome. The list
may appeal to readers of publications such as Omni, Scientific
American, Extropy, or the Whole Earth Software Review, to name a few. 
  Possible topics may range through but not  be limited to:
  --Evolution of the Net and electronic communications
  --Information science and management
  --Artificial intelligence, neural nets, robotics
  --medicine, life extension, cybernetics, longevity
  --ecology, natural resources, energy sources
  --physical and societal evolution
  --Electronic communications in the future
  --Memetics and systems theory
Subscription requests and Administrivia to:
List address:


    Contact: neuron-request@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Peter Marvit)
    Purpose: Neuron-Digest is a moderated list (in digest form)
    dealing with all aspects of neural networks (and any type of
    network or neuromorphic system).  Topics include both
    connectionist models (artificial neural networks) and biological
    systems ("wetware").  Back issues and limited software is
    available via FTP from cattell.psych.upenn.edu. The Digest is
    gatewayed to USENET's comp.ai.neural-nets.
i've seen one copy - looks like a place where a number of the major
researchers can be found - eg first msg in the issue i read was from michael

physics-request@unix.sri.com _or_ @mc.lcs.mit.edu (not seen by me)

    Contact: physics-request@qedqcd.rye.ny.us (Mike Miskulin)
    Purpose: Physics is a newly created digest to cover current
    developments in theoretical and experimental physics.  Typical
    topics might include particle physics, plasmaphysics,
    astrophysics.  Discussions related to all branches (large and
    small) of physics are welcome.

- theoretical physics pre-print list
You can get papers on general relativity & quantum cosmology from
gr-qc@xxx.lanl.gov, high energy physics [theoretical] from
hep-th@xxx.lanl.gov. Send Subject: help. (Most papers written for people with
TeX or LATeX, so be prepared for the equations to be even harder to understand
than usual.) - mail gr-qc@xxx.lanl.gov with subject line "get 9210011" and
explode your mailbox! this is a paper all about problems to do with time -
technical and conceptual - in quantum gravity.

Available commands include
get paper#      returns paper specified by paper#   (e.g. `get 9109001' ;
            for abstract alone, append .abs to paper#, e.g. `get 9109001.abs')
            `get 3 2.abs 9108001', e.g., returns multiple papers.
         (get defaults to the current year/month so that e.g. during 10/91
          `get 1 2 5'   or   `get 01 2 005'  will automatically prepend 9110's
          and necessary zeroes to result in `get 9110001 9110002 9110005' .
          numbers too large for current yr/mo have previous yr/mo prepended.
          get also defaults to current year, e.g. `get 9005' during 1991 gives
          `get 9109005' , and months/numbers too large for current year
          default to previous year. mixed formats e.g.
          `get 1 08005 2 55 harvmac.tex 9109058 2.abs'   also work.)
listing         returns list of year/month's currently available.
list yymm's      returns title/author's of papers currently held for
                   given yr/mo subsets,  e.g. `list 9109'.
                `list macros'  returns available macros
                `list new' resends most recently sent title/abs listing
                   of papers received (typically from previous day).
                for title/author/abstract's of papers held for given yr/mo
                        subsets, append .abs: e.g. `list 9109.abs 9110.abs'
              multiple requests allowed: e.g. `list 9109 9110.abs macros new'
find xyz        search title/author list for xyz (either author or word in
             title, case insensitive) to retrieve paper#, e.g. `find goldstone'
           find defaults to past 12 months, for earlier use `find goldstone 91'
subscribe your full name
                add new username to daily distribution list (email address
                   automatically extracted from return address),
                   `your full name' is your full name (any number of words
                   and initials) as you wish it to appear on distribution list
                <<< note that `suscribe' is not a word >>>
cancel          remove user@nodename from daily distribution list
subscribe all   automatically receive full text of all papers
cancel all      return to receipt only of authors/titles/abstracts
distribution    returns full list of email addresses on distribution list
comment         forwards mail message for human perusal
help            returns this list of commands

All commands may be abbreviated by any truncation that includes at least
the first three letters (e.g. rep, sub, can, dis, lis, com, ...).

Do not make multiple requests for the same paper. If you receive nothing
(or if the response is slow) it means there is a problem at your end.

some other bulletin boards running the same software:
alg-geom@publications.math.duke.edu (algebraic geometry)
astro-ph@babbage.sissa.it           (astrophysics)
cond-mat@babbage.sissa.it           (condensed matter)
e-mail@xxx.lanl.gov                 (e-mail address database)
funct-an@babbage.sissa.it           (functional analysis)
gr-qc@xxx.lanl.gov                  (general relativity / quantum cosmology)
hep-lat@ftp.scri.fsu.edu            (computational and lattice physics)
hep-ph@xxx.lanl.gov                 (high energy physics phenomenological)
hep-th@xxx.lanl.gov                 (high energy physics formal)
nucl-th@xxx.lanl.gov                (nuclear theory)

 -Genetics Bank         mail gene-server@bchs.uh.edu
  		       +mail retrieve@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
  		       +mail blast@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
   Subject: help  Offers: genetic database/nucleic acid/protein sequence.
also check out the bionet groups on Usenet
I remember, when I first started exploring Usenet, how cool i thought it was
that newly sequenced genes were posted to bionet. I downloaded about 1Meg of
DNA sequences just for the thrill of carrying it around on floppydisk..

 -E-Math		telnet e-math.ams.com or
   offers: Am. Math. Soc. bbs w/ software and reviews. (Login/Password: e-math)

listserv@gitvm1.bitnet sub frac-l       FRACTALS

listserv@math.ufl.edu / FAQ settheory / eprints wavelets topology

HIT-L (Highly Imaginative Technology)
listserv@ufrj.bitnet / ufrj.br SUBSCRIBE HIT
this is a pretty good one. and remember to GET OFF send to the listserv
SIGNOFF HIT - sometimes half the posts are whimpers of 'how can I get off this
list' - worse than fnord-l in that regard..

HTECH-L@SIVM.BITNET history of technology

subscribe satnews me me
fortnightly message on satellite tech & broadcasting

space-investors-request@cs.cmu.edu - i subscribe but have yet to see any
traffic after a week - after a month something turned up. this list is what
the name says: for people who want to invest in Space

the guy who nets from his bike

"loopy" file on quantum gravity - see appendices on uploaded files
ALSO!!!!!!!!!! See John Baez's stuff; as i recall its anon ftp at
math.princeton.edu, /pub/fycfung/baezpapers with an out of date README file.
Also look for his weekly postings to sci.physics [sci.physics.research by the
time you read this?] on "Find of the Week" in mathematical physics.

extropians-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu **
serious discussion of extropian/upwing ideas such as physical immortality,
anarchocapitalism, postindustrial society etc
    Purpose: The unifying characteristic of the list recipients is
    their latest interest in anarchocapitalist politics, techniques
    of life extension (including cryonics), the technological extension
    of human intelligence and perception, nanotechnology, spontaneous
    orders, memetics, and a number of other related ideas.  If these
    topics seem to you to be naturally related and mutually consistent,
    you might already be an Extropian.
    All Extropians (and those who suspect that they are Extropians)
    are invited to join.


also bit.listserv.xtropy-l - longer essays on extropian themes
= exi-essay-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu

from lynx.cs.wisc.edu
Structure of this archive:

The Exi-Essay directory contains essays posted to the Extropy
Essay email list.  The file naming conventions are as follows:


The file INDEX contains an index of all essays contained in this archive.
The file EXTROPY contains information about the journal _Extropy_
The file PRINCIPLES contains version 2.0 of the Extropian Principles.

[followed by a copyleft message by the extropian list manager which you really
should read, even if only to read the extropian principles]

List of Essays from the ExI-Essay list, in chronological order,
including brief summaries:

Date      Filename     Title             Author
09/01/92  --------     National Defense in an Anarcho-capitalistic Society
  Summary: Anarchies will not start wars and will be in good shape to
           defend themselves because of their inherent efficiencies.
           Contact: josh@cs.rutgers.edu

09/02/92  --------     Living Systems
                                         Alex Chislenko
  Summary: Commonalities exist between different complex systems, such
           as societies, making it fruitful to view them as 'living'.
           Contact: sasha@cs.umb.edu

09/06/92  zahn.090692  Well, Oh Yeah?
                                         Derek Zahn
  Summary: A response to Hilary Putnam's view that evolution produced our
           minds by lots of kludges, making AI an inherently infeasible task.
           Contact: derek@cs.wisc.edu

09/09/92  more.090992  Transhumanism:  Towards a Futurist Philosophy
                                         Max More
  Summary: Religion provides a context for life's 'meaning' but is entropic.
           Extropian transhumanism provides a non-entropic alternative.
           Contact: more@usc.edu

09/17/92   johnson.091792  Extropian Book List
                                         Richard Johnson
  Summary: Extensive list of organizations, books, periodicals, etc,
           topically related to Extropian ideas.
           Contact: rdj%adpgate.uucp@apple.com

10/30/92   chislenko.103092  CLASS of all theories
                                         Alex Chislenko
  Summary: Brief thoughts on the class of all possible theories
           Contact: sasha@cs.umb.edu
11/01/92   cox.110192  Taming the Electronic Frontier
                                         Brad Cox
  Summary: Proposal for a course studying the future of information
           technology at George Mason University.  Explanation and Syllabus.
           Contact: bradcox@sitevax.gmu.edu

11/01/92   shapiro.110192  Business and Capitalist Memes in China
                                         Harry A. B. Shapiro
  Summary: A brief call for a word for the meme or meme complex that
           allows a person to focus upon and to work towards life in
           an increasingly market-driven economy.
           Contact: habs@gnu.ai.mit.edu

11/20/92   --------    Reversible Agents
                                         Robin Hanson
  Summary: Preprint of 1992 IEEE Physics of Computation Workshop paper
           suggesting that AI as goal-directed behavior is non-reversible
           and thus must pay entropic penalties, especially for measuring
           the environment.  Communication, however, may be much cheaper.
           Contact: hanson@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov

also look for the more recent "How to Break the Law" [almost like an online
Loompanics Catalog!]


nic.funet.fi / ftp.funet.fi
an albert hofmann gif, and then next door is hanna-maria poropudas,
whose explanation of the structure of time, space potatoes etc is now
legendary - i predict that one day some astrophysicist who was a usenet
junkie as an undergrad will discover some cosmological feature and name it
a "space potato" in honor of hanna-maria and hannu - start with


TEXTARCHIVE.LIST Oxford Text archive@vaxox.ac.uk

mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu  /gutenberg
which is an attempt to build an online library of 10000 etexts by 2001
so far the weirdest thing they have is probably just the Book of Mormon
BUT!! if you have any anticopyright texts - whether UG Krishnamurti or
anarchist/Autonomedia classics - WHY NOT scan them in or transcribe
them, and send them to the project? email project director
hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu  for instructions on how to submit a text - YOU

	InterText	   network.ucsd.edu:/intertext
	Athene	      network.ucsd.edu:/intertext/Athene

Online Book Initiative - /pub/obi
also found at world.std.com /obi - some subdirectories
    Ingar.Holst  strange stuff
    DecWRL  abstracts.index
    Anonymous   English.is.tough.stuff
    Soviet.Archives   README, & gifs
-while we're on the topic of the xUSSR, apparently one April Fool's there was
a now-famous forged posting on Usenet from chernenko@moskvax. haven't seen it,
but it's supposedly archived at:
anon ftp: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/docs/about-the-net/usenet/moskvax-april-fools
    Tracy.LaQuey        1990 net.directory - sounds very interesting
        - this has been highly recommended to me
        - you can reach it through the WorldWideWeb - telnet info.cern.ch,
        select Search by Topic, Computers, Networking, Item 16
        - also you can order a hard copy from internet-companion@utexas.edu

*** SOME FTP SITES *** (The Site Which Must Not Be Named)
an up-and-coming home of online weirdness, by the look of it - an ftp site
of underworld industries - also info on 'alternative media / alternative
music' network in /proj/amam - try get repdir to see who you should contact
e-zine lunatic fringe and others stored, along with high weirdness by email,
a 'stream-of-consciusness' project - a lot of this stuff i couldn't access
properly owing to difficulties at MY end, but it all seems promising. some
words from the guy who runs it:
>welp, i would give you the alphabetic address/name of the site IF THERE
>WERE ONE!  you see, we get a pool of about 30 (more if we need) IP
>addresses to do with as we please.  the big boys upstairs (actually in
>another building) who are in charge of assigning names will only do so
>if they are "important" (mail servers, BIG machines).  the pool we have
>are all SUPPOSED to just be for individual (DOS/mac) workstations.
>however, i skimmed one of and made it the "pirated" uwi ftp site!! voila!
>as for my blurb (by the nameless site!) you can include something like:
>underworld industries (uwi) is dedicated to exploring new (or old) and
>exciting experimental and [arguably] creative uses for technology.  oh
>yeah, and we even like the old-fashioned experimental arts, too. (like
>underground press, graphic arts, video, etc.)  check out the docs/uwi
>directory on the ftp site for more info....
>[sound ok?]
Bill the Cat | kca@caen.engin.umich.edu | UnderWorld Ind. UWI001, P.O.Box 4060
Think freely | FINGER me for more info! | Ann Arbor, MI 48106-4060  USA  Earth

see also: red.css.itd.umich.edu under "WEIRD POLITICS AND CONSPIRACY"
          quartz.rutgers.edu under "WEIRD RELIGIONS"
          slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com under "PAGANISM etc"


[as well as the topics listed, many bbs's have rooms dedicated to non
sequiturs, free association, incongruous statements etc. since these
rooms are changed frequently, I have not bothered to list them here - MP]
[this section not updated since HWbEmail v0.0]

Citadel BBSs		ISCABBS		login New to join
Spiritual Forum> Paganism And Magick> Philosophy> Cult Classics>
Amazing Stories and Urban Legends> Paraphenomena> Alternative Press>
ALTERNATIVE PRESS> i used to be a regular isca fanatic but now this is the only
one i read - about as informative as alt.zines

hpx5.aid.no		Skynet		login skynet
Religion> Far Side of Computing> Predictions>

quartz.rutgers.edu	Quartz BBS	login bbs
Religion Issues> Witches Bew> Unexpl. Phenomena> Drugs>

Hotel BBSs

badboy.aue.com		Badboy's BBS	login bbs
Boards: Rob, Underground

chatsubo.nersc.gov	Chatsubo	login bbs
Boards: TheNet

jupiter.ee.msstate.edu	Mars		login bbs

tiny.computing.csbsju.edu BBS / jodominik
monoadm@city.ac.uk 138.40.11/21/31/41.1

>From: "Alex R.N. Wetmore" 
One more bbs with some wierdness on it:
yabbs - phred.pc.cc.cmu.edu - login as bbs or telnet to port 8888.  We
have some political and hacker oriented stuff on ftp as well.  Also,
note that redspread.css.itd.umich.edu also is running a bbs now (using
the same software), so you might want to update your entry.


email nuts@ora.com for orderinng info re "!%@:: A Directroy of Electronic Mail
Addressing and Networks" (a paper publication)

amixinfo@markets.amix.com - amix is american information exchange - they
are apparently an online information market (!?)
- after the last Hwbemail was posted to Usenet the full Amixinfo blurb was
posted, here are some excerpts:
AMIX, the American Information Exchange, is something completely new --
an online Information Marketplace (R).  On AMIX, anyone can both buy and
_sell_ documents, software, or anything that can be stored digitally.
Those who buy or sell customized information can carry out consulting
contracts, even very small ones, easily and profitably.  AMIX handles all
the funds transfer automatically.
This Information Marketplace has been open for business continuously since
January 1, 1992.  Consulting contracts are being made and fulfilled; 
document sales are occurring on a daily basis in key markets; and information
providers continue to "stock the shelves" with new goods in all markets.  
The AMIX software allows customers to explore the system online with guest 
access, and to register their own account online to receive full access.
Customers who open their accounts now will have their monthly fees waived
for the month in which they sign up and for the following month.
To receive the AMIX software disk, enabling guest exploration of the system
and self-registration, contact AMIX by email at amixinfo@markets.amix.com
or by phone (415) 903-1015.
What follows is an overview of AMIX: its concepts, structure, and function; 
the market-building phase; and advantages of early entry into the market.
[but i wont include this..]
AMIX, AMIX Service, Information Marketplace, and Information Markets are 
trademarks of the American Information Exchange Corporation. All other 
product, brand, or company names are trademarks of their respective holders.
(c) 1992 American Information Exchange Corporation
- an interesting idea!

for info on how archie works - mail with Subject: 'help'

Internet-drafts@nri.reston.va.us - send 'help' for information
technical proposals for the future of the internet
chop.isca.uiowa.edu - lots and lots of stuff. endless menu selections.
this is something called 'panda', which you probably know more about than
i do

downwind.sprl.umich.edu 3000 - weather update

info.cern.ch - a node on the WorldWide Web, an attempt to build up
an online hypertext reference work.

info.rutgers.edu - dictionary/thesaurus/familiar-quotations and a few
other things. call up the 1991 world cia factbook and look at the entry
for 'world'. they have the bible, koran, book of mormon organized so you
can execute keyword / topic searches [any bets on how long it will be
before they have the principia discordia?]

>From billy@sol.acs.unt.edu Sun Oct 25 07:10:53 1992
Submission: There is an effort to put all electronic journals, newsletters,
zines, etc up in the Gopher system on the Internet.  It can be found on
the University of North Texas Gopher (gopher.unt.edu port 70).

Look at alt.internet.services for more.

whois (-h nic.ddn.mil) un.org
whois (-h nic.ddn.mil) nic.ddn.mil
  [some people will need the bits in brackets, others not]

A c10000-line list of mailing lists and their descriptions is available
via ftp from coombs.anu.edu.au /coombspapers/interest-groups.9201.txt.
(There *has* to be something shorter available; ftp-by-mail and watch your
mailbox explode!) Some of the ones that follow aren't mentioned on that
list however. UPDATE: A more up-to-date version of this list can be
accessed via telnet through chop.isca.uiowa.edu - select online
information, merit internet, other ifo servers, main gopher, ftp sites,
popular ftp, interest group lists [that's my paraphrase of the necessary
menu selections].

NEW-LIST@VM1.NoDak.edu - presume it tells you about new lists

pit-manager.mit.edu /pub/usenet hundreds of directories with all sorts
  of things archived it seems, eg /news.answers has heaps of faqs,
  /alt.drugs a few alt.drugs regular postings

NEWSPOSTING by mail - Once upon a time apparently, you could post
to news by mailing ucbvax.berkeley.edu in the format
and the text of your message would be posted to favourite.newsgroup. That
service isn't working any more, *but* someone told me that the same thing
can now be done through cs.utexas.edu (I think).
Scott yanoff says this is working but I say it isn't. but try one of the
anonymous servers, eg email help@anon.penet.fi
Finland is getting overworked, I am sure. Or in general any other news/mail

acsnet.syr.edu SUMMIT

ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com - send message "help" a bit slow lately
bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu - haven't really tried

 -FTP Mail		mail bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu
   Body-of-letter: help or ftplist for a list of anon. ftp sites.

see also the Scott Yanoff list at the end re:
archie, archie mail servers, CARL, CHAT, faxgate [other stuff too]

fidonet z:n/f
=internet fn.ln@f.n.z.fidonet.org
this is how to send email to someone on fidonet, from the internet

*** DRUGS MAN!  ***
IRC #drugs; check the LearyBot

ftp.u.washington.edu should have the alt.drugs archives somewhere, from memory

alt.drugs ??? DMT etc FAQ

soda.berkeley.edu /pub/sfraves/chemistry/probchild.Z
flubber.cs.umd.edu /other/tms/drug-politics

        -much sought-after tripp-e grafix program       [from FC FAQ]
psychedelic graphics - not at ecst.csuchico.edu any more
ftp.rahul.net /pub/atman/UTLCD-preview/mind-candy/acidwarp.zip

nic.funet.fi / ftp.funet.fi
an albert hofmann gif

leri archives [see elsewhere] have blotter gifs somewhere i think

IRC channels #hack and #mindvox

Legion of Doom technical manual - ftp.eff.org /pub/cud/lod
RIPCO BBS 312-528-5020

grind.isca.uiowa.edu (
you can telnet to this ftp site, login iscabbs - file descriptions appear
whenever you list the directory contents.
	/info/articles	Academic papers and news articles about hacking
	/info/hacking	Quotations from "experts" about hackers and hacking
		contains the following electronic journals: ane, ati,
		bootlegger, cud, hnet, lod, narc, nim, phantasy, phrack,
		phun, pirate, synd [and text file x - not a journal]

[advice from wgibson@gaia.matrix]
From Paco Xander Nathan              Dec 15, 92 11:00:55 am -0600
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:00:55 -0600
To: future@nyx.cs.du.edu
Subject: learning email/Internet

A lot of people have talked about email hacks here, and some have mentioned
not being terribly familiar yet with Internet.  Here's a couple good

_The Internet Companion_ by Tracy LaQuey, with Jeanne Ryer, forward by Al
"A Beginner's Guide To Global Networking".  Hey, it's only eleven bucks,
it's extremely readable, and even the direst Net guru can learn a few tricks
here.  Tracy knows the Net, in vivid detail, and explains its workings at
the level of somebody who knows enough to power up their Mac or PC.  ISBN
0-201-62224-6, Addison-Wesley, 1993.  I'll post a better review to the Net
later..  Send email to: "internet-companion@utexas.edu" for info, ordering,

There's an email list called Cypherpunks outta Berkeley.  If U know what
you're doing here, you might wanna get on it..  Lots of encryption
discussion, but also the place where these anonymous remailers have been
breeding.  Guaranteed that you'll learn more than you ever thought possible
about email hacks, if you can grok that list's discussions.  Send email to:


alt.conspiracy of course, and talk.politics.*, and bit.listserv.politics

red.css.itd.umich.edu ( /poli/*  also /zines/*
  ftp.css.itd.umich.edu ( no longer valid for this
This site contains, among other things:
Arm The Spirit (Autonome Forum) - The Disability Rag - Encyclopedia of
Associations - Future Culture FAQ - INAC (US Sinn Fein documents) - Maoist
Internationalist Movement - NativeNet Archives - Organized Thoughts - P_News
Practical Anarchy - Scream Baby - Workers World - many essays by individual

Comments from pauls@umich.edu who runs the site:
"...red.css.itd.umich.edu has a world-writable incoming directory
for submissions, whereas the other site does not.  Submissions may still
be sent via email to pauls@umich.edu, although handling will be delayed
relative to items uploaded via ftp.
  "If you are an individual wishing to submit essays, you are guaranteed
archival space (within reasonable space limits) for all politically-related
non-copyrighted materials that you submit.  If you represent an organization
seeking ftp site space, please send me a message to arrange archival access.
  "Furthermore, we now have a working mirror site of the Computer Underground
Digest archives from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  Save EFF some
bandwidth and visit our site!  The CuD archives are _only_ on the
red.css.itd.umich.edu site, and _not_ not the ftp.css.itd.umich.edu site.
  "Please email all queries to pauls@umich.edu
  "If you wish to submit items to the CuD archives, please contact
their archivist at cudarch@eff.org"


at red.css.itd.umich.edu   the.truth.hurts
dont know if email address is still valid
>From PETERW@ucsvax.ucs.umass.edu Fri Nov 13 01:09:21 1992
The following is the text copy of a newspaper written for and distributed
at the March for Women's Lives, April 1992.
The Truth Hurts
A product of the Truth Hurts Foundation
"Dedicated to presenting reality, despite its painful nature"
Table of Contents
The Truth Hurts Foundation is... - Baby and Me, and Big Brother Makes Three -
You Need Not Have a Wombful of Blues - Feast and Famine - The Economics of
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activ-l@mizzou1.missouri.edu   activists' list

sub 1-union yourname   - (anarcho?)syndicalism
- I was told that this list is mostly "orthodox doofuses" who "quote Das
Kapital as if it were the bible". unseen by me.

AYN-RAND@ua1vm.ua.edu - haven't checked up on this one, discovered it in a
mail header

solan@math.uio.no - "non serviam, the radical newsletter devoted to the
philosophy of Max Stirner" - just starting up - he also has the whole text of
"The Ego and His Own" available, I think in German and English.
1st issue now seen, pretty good. archived at red ftp.

"Postmodern Society and Neoconservatism" ATEITTINEN@JYLK.JYU.FI
[this essay will be sent upon request]

    Contact: ae852@yfn.ysu.edu (Jovan Weismiller)
    Purpose: This list is under the aegis of l'Alliance Monarchists
    and is dedicated to promoting the cause of traditional monarchy
    and the Counter Revolution.  We believe in government based on
    natural law principles, decentralization, subsidiarity, an economy 
    based on the principles of distributive justice, and the defense of 
    traditional Western values.
    We believe in a Europe, United, Traditional, and Free from the
    Atlantic to the Urals, but we oppose the centralizing bureaucracy
    of the Maastricht treaty.  While we are based in the US, we are 
    affiliated with L'Alliance pour la maintenance de la France en Europe, 
    and we have members, as well as fraternal relations with the monarchist
    organizations, in most Western European countries.
    We work for the strengthening of existing monarchies, the restoration
    in those countries with a monarchist tradition, and the building up
    of an infrastructure appropriate to the instuaration of monarchy in
    those countries without a living monarchist tradition.
note for loompanics subscribers: check out The World Power Foundation and The
Rebirth of Aristocracy

deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu JohnSwitzer's Rush Limbaugh summaries archived

9nov89-l@DBOTUI11.BITNET (not seen by me)
send SUB 9NOV89-L your_real_name to LISTSERV%DBOTU11.BITNET@VM1.NODAK.EDU

Arm The Spirit On-line (Autonome Forum)
red.css.itd.umich.edu /poli
        -header "ATS: e-mail request"
        -anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist e-magazine    [from the FC FAQ]
- autonome forum sends out a very interesting range of materials.. press
releases from kurdish rebels, stuff on black panthers who've been in jail for
20 years, "etc". mostly has to do with people & groups who are literally
fighting with their lives for something
anarchy-list@cwi.nl **
anarchy; most subscribers are american
write to anarchy-list-request
Comrade Porcupine on this list has a MUSH with an anarchist/political section,
but i forget the address!

nic.funet.fi / ftp.funet.fi
  /pub/doc/coup/val-l/ussr.22  from valentine smith's famous mailing list,
notes on the '91 coup in the xussr

cardell@lysator.liu.se - in charge of subscription requests for practical
@narchy online, which he coproduces with cmunson@macc.wisc.edu
very good ezine
ALSO runs spunk-list@lysator.liu.se, for Spunk Press, which appears to be a
still somewhat inchoate attempt to create a globally linked anarchist press
with anonline collective whose materials will be archived at red ftp.

grind.isca.uiowa.edu (
you can telnet to this ftp site, login iscabbs - file descriptions appear
whenever you list the directory contents.
	/info/jfk	JFK conspiracy files, alt.conspiracy.jfk archives

will send a copy of Bob Black's excellent noncopyright essay "The
Abolition of Work" on request - also available via ftp from
red ftp, I think /poli/Resources/Essays/abolishWork

libernet-request@dartmouth.edu - libertarianism/objectivism i guess
    Contact: libernet-request@dartmouth.edu (Barry S. Fagin)
    Purpose: Libernet is a Libertarian mailing list.  The list is
    available in two modes: as a mail reflector and as a digest.

MASONIC list - contact ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org
Masonic Digest
    Contact: ptrei@mitre.org (Peter Trei)
    Purpose: The Masonic Digest is a moderated forum for discussion of
    Free Masonry, affiliated groups, and other fraternal orders.  As
    moderator, I do not pass on ay message which contains or purports to
    contain material I am obliged to conceal, or which I believe members
    of other orders are obliged to conceal.  Within that restriction, I am
    as liberal as possible.  Postings from non-Masons are welcome.  So
    is criticism, as long as it is reasoned and in good taste.

    Contact: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
    Purpose: To provide information about and to discuss issues
    relating to indigenous people around the world, and current
    threats to their cultures and habitats (e.g. rainforests).

objectivism-request@vixie.sf.ca.us **
objectivism discussion list - seems to be fairly low traffic - to access the
archives mail objectivism-lissterv@vix.com with the single-line msg 'help'

[ftp] slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com /pub/incoming/ronell
Transcript of an interview with radical feminist Avital Ronell, from Re/SEARCH
#13, "Angry Women". Fascinating ideas. May not last long at slopoke as it is a
copyright violation.

/obi/Rants  Online Book Initiative  eg the whole Principia Discordia, or
  66.questions, your basic introduction to Holocaust Revisionism

unseen: ec@INDYCMS.BITNET  European Community

and of course Bill Clinton has an email address, I think at Compu$erve, but
it will be constantly plastered over the net [my excuse for not having it
here] {what's _al_gore_'s email address, huh?}

alt.zines, maybe soon alt.zines.electric
Watch out for Interzine!! The irregularly produced zine devoted to "interviews
in cyberspace". The first and so far only issue is a chat with Jagwire X,
founder of the AUtopia list on the idea of an ocean-going New Edge colony
[autopia-request@wixer.cactus.org - or maybe bigtex.cactus.org now], and it's
archived somewhere at red.css.itd.umich.edu. Watch out for Rez in Issue #2!
(Also while we're on the topic: also check out IRC #cIRCle, future home of the

Alternative Press> room in ISCA BBS - the only one I read regularly these days

Some last-minute additions: pdm@ucrmath.ucr.edu maintains an
"Electronic/Industrial/Etc zines list" (note, those are snail-mail zies)
which has just been posted to alt.zines, alt.industrial and
rec.music.industrial; and spingo@panix.com wants you to send him your
ezine, I think for his BBS.

/pub/newsletters/F5-E/*  Factsheet Five Electric - zine reviews

home of luigi - bob drake - editor/assembler of taproot, "a quarterly
publication of independent, underground, and experimental language-centred
arts..." who have put out over 40 collections of such - now taproot is
experimentally going online with a collection of zine reviews. i have seen
issue #0, part 1, which contains those reviews; i am not a zine person
myself (i have my hands full with what i'm getting over the net!!) but
some of the stuff reviewed looked really interesting. there's also reviews
of poetry chapbooks (?) (unseen) and future issues will include mailart
sections. [speaking of which, is there such a thing as internet mailart
yet?] send a request and luigi-bob will mail you with whatever he has.
worth getting. and say you liked it if you did (same applies to all these
people); feedback is essential at this stage of development.



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The EFF [stolen from FC FAQ]
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cs.dal.ca ( /pub allegedly big cyberpunk archives can't see em

bladex@bigtex.cactus.org **
home of Scream Baby e-zine - an occasional publication but very very good -
Blade X appears to be hip to all the right things - archived at
red.css.itd.umich.edu - there's a paper zine I haven't seen
ftp.eff.org /pub/journals/ScreamBaby  scream-baby.xxx92 {sep, oct, nov, dec}

ccappuc@caticsuf.csufresno.edu "CuD ripoff with different info" - CPSR press
releases - Usenet reader responses - send message with body "Please add my
E-mail address to the mailing list" - specify maximum number of bytes or
lines you can take

dfp-request@underg.ucf.org - digital free press, archived at EFF ftp.eff.org]

FringeWare, Inc.
       -Paco Xander Nathan's company
they sell everything, including the McKenna/Meyer "TIMEWAVE ZERO" software

future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu **
andy hawks' famous FutureCulture list
the FAQ is a fantastic document - available via ftp from umich.edu
FCult archives in .ARJ form /pub/atman at ftp.rahul.net
rahul also has agrippa, acidwarp
glove-list-request@karazm.math.edu  Atari PowerGlove [from Mondo 2000]

jagwire@bigtex.cactus.org - runs the AUtopia mailing list. FutureCulture
subscribers will know about AUtopia - the proposal for a technocolony/TAZ
at sea, perhaps like the Grenadians in "Islands in the Net"

leri-l@??? **
leary - mckenna - the singularity. the electronic commune. thousands of
lines of text everyday; guaranteed to crash lesser mailers.
one of the net's many elites
on the move - contact moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu for current address

mind machines - inquire and they'll send you a useful info list - there should
be a bitnet address but unfortunately i dont have it
        an old blurb:
        [Last Updated 12-October-1991]
   MindMachine Digest is a list devoted to discussions
   on the use, construction, and future potential
   of mind machines. Mind machines are electronic devices
   or methods that non-invasively alter human consciousness.
   Other topics of discussion can include: meditation,
   accelerated learning, hypnosis, float tanks, and other
   methods of altering consciousness. A strong emphasis is placed
   on the scientific study of these methods as well as the
   construction of mind machines devices.
        LIST OWNER:   Dana Nibby

[ftp] quartz.rutgers.edu /pub/subgenius/transhuman.Z
What this is doing in the subgenius directory I don't know - transcript of the
chapter from "Are You a Transhuman?" by FM2030 [formerly FM Esfandiary] in
which he outlines the ideology he tentatively designates "Up-Wing" -
pro-physical immortality, pro-space colonization, "telespheres",
teledemocracy, "networks of intimacy" etc etc. also available via anon ftp
from slopoke, /pub/incoming/upwinger. These ideas have a lot in common with
Extropian ideas (see elsewhere) except that FM's slant is more collectivist in
its orientation I think.

surfpunk@osc.versant.com (SURFPUNK Technical Journal)
unseen by me. an excerpt from surfpunk was posted somewhere that i _do_ read,
and this was the "sig" (can anyone translate for me what i presume to be
spanish at the end?):

The SURFPUNK Technical Journal is a dangerous multinational hacker zine
originating near BARRNET in the fashionable western arm of the northern
California matrix.  Quantum Californians appear in one of two states,
spin surf or spin punk.  Undetected, we are both, or might be neither.

Send postings to , subscription requests
to .  MIME encouraged.  Xanalogical
archive access soon.  Copyright Infringement Is Your Best Entertainment Value.

                        Cambie su inodoro viejo de 5-7 galones por un
                        nuevo de desag\"u\'e m\'odico de 1.6 galones y reciba
                        $50 de reembolso de parte de California Water
                        Service Company.  Llame al (415) 367-6800 ahora y
                        obtenga una lista de inodoros de desag\"ue m\'odico
                        aprobados y requisitos para ser elegible.

Psyche e-zine - contact X91007@phillip.edu.au - speculative science / culture
Announcement: New Electronic Magazine 'Psyche'.
[first issue out march '93?]
Examples of some of the general areas that Psyche will cover
are: the mind-body problem; altered-states-of-consciousness;
psychoactive drugs; shamanism; dream states; hypnosis;
artificial intelligence; meditative states; ecstatic
religious states; blindsight; language and mind.
In an attempt to offer a grounding in some of the central
themes of Psyche, major review articles of influential
ideas/books/movements will also be solicited. Examples of
what these might be are: John Searle's Chinese Room Problem;
Daniel Dennett's book 'Consciousness Explained'; Gordon
Wasson's theories regarding Soma; Roger Penrose's book 'The
Emperor's New Mind'.
While Psyche will not be peer-reviewed this does not mean
that it will become a haven for New Age/Lunatic Fringe ideas.
I have just completed a BSc Honours majoring in psychology,
and I am currently studying the way the brain codes the
position of objects. I would like to balance by skills with
others and so am particularly interested in getting in
contact with people with backgrounds in either computer
science, philosophy or anthropology to act as sub/co-editors.
some new edge zines with email addresses [cribbed wholly from the FC FAQ]
                                                         |              |
                                                         |   Magazines: |

CyberEdge Journal
928 Greenhill Road
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415.383.2458 (voice)
415.389.0251 (fax)
       -covers vr and related topics
       -$129 for 6 issues

EXTROPY: The Journal of Trans-humanist Thought
PO Box 57306
Los Angeles, CA 90057-0306
       -$9 two issues (one year)
[editor Max More, more@ucsc.edu -mp]

       -magazine described as "Mondo 2000 without the gloss"
       -email for info

pb 22953, 1100 DL
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
ropg@ooc.uva.nl (Internet)
       -published near that hotbed of hackers in holland/amsterdam
       -European counterpart to 2600
       -$2.30 US an issue

Steve Steinberg
325 Ellwood Beach #3
Goleta, CA   93117
       -hacking, cyberspace, interviews, designer drugs, cryonics, etc.
       -$4 an issue

Iron Feather Journal
PO Box 1905
Boulder, CO   80306-1905
       -hacking, anarchy, techno-phun, underground info, raves, activism
       -$2 an issue

Mondo 2000
PO Box 10171
Berkeley, CA    94709
415.845.9018 (phone)
415.649.9630 (fax)
       -your guide to all things cyberpunk and some things not
       -$24 for 5 issues (published quarterly)

PO Box 752
Middle Island, NY   11953-0752
516.751.2600 (office)
516.751.2608 (fax)
       -the famous hacker's zine
       -subscriptions are $21 for 4 issues (published quarterly)
       -back issues are $25 / year

Whole Earth Review
PO Box 38
Sausalito, CA   94966-9932
(Whole Earth runs The Well [Whole Earth Lectronic Link] - well.sf.ca.us)
       -combines new age, techno-culture, california fads, etc.
       -$20 year for subscriptions


sokay@mitre.org - home of 'Armadillo Culture", which also gets posted to
usenet it seems - "being the excremeditation of a hyperactive armadillo's
activities, opinions, and other stuff..." - still haven't *read* the damn
thing - "cool ezine" - Andy Hawks in the FC FAQ

tibbetts@hsi.hsi.com - home of the Unplastic News, also archived by EFF
Unplastic No 5 has just come out.

    Contact: intertxt@network.ucsd.edu (Jason Snell)

    Purpose: InterText is a bi-monthly fiction magazine with over
    1000 subscribers worldwide.  InterText publishes in two formats:
    straight ASCII and PostScript (for Postscript compatible laser
    printers).  For more information, to ask about subscribing, or for
    submission guidelines, maili intertxt@network.ucsd.edu.  Back
    issues may be FTPed from network.ucsd.edu, in the /intertext

export.acs.cmu.edu  /pub/quanta  Quanta e-zine

	InterText	   network.ucsd.edu:/intertext
	Athene	      network.ucsd.edu:/intertext/Athene


KAKA SUTRA - Tasteless Sex Acts (from alt.tasteless FAQ)

  "Paul Spinrad (pspinrad@ads.com) once wrote a 'Bodily Functions Survey'
with questions covering nasal hygiene, vomiting, urination, defecation and
flatus expulsion. Send email with the header 'cancer cunt puke, I hate you
I hate you!' to case@diku.dk." (from the alt.tasteless FAQ)
  - according to the FAQ case can also send you "Recycled Jokes Files"
(necrophilia jokes, vomit synonyms, etc), various classic alt.tasteless
stories (the gerbil-and-meat grinder story, Scrotum Self Repair),
and the alt.tasteless theme song.

weird-l@brownvm.brown.edu **
contact listserv@brownvm.brown.edu - sub l your_name
This appears to be 95% surrealistic  vignettes. Not really my cup of tea.


has copies of Monty Python scripts HOLY GRAIL, LIFE OF BRIAN, MEANING OF LIFE
apparently lots of people on alt.fan.monty-python have these but like to
withhold them from newbies. or some such. anyhow, i have an appeal for
information: i'd like to keep a list of all copyright violations available
on the net - transcribed texts that is. if you have any, or know where
they can be found, contact me!

*** MU*S ***

    Contact: jwisdom@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Joseph Wisdom)
    Purpose: If you are new in the MUD world, or are simply looking
    for new places to get into, try subscribing to Internet Games
    MUD-List today! Make sure to include the string "mud list" in the
    subject header.

    Contact: tinymuck-sloggers-request@piggy.ucsb.edu (Robert Earl)
    Purpose: Forum for programmers, wizards, and users of the
    extensible, programmable TinyMUD derivative known as TinyMUCK
    (current version: 2.2).

    Contact: tinymush-programmers-request@cygnus.com
    Purpose: Discussion devoted to the programming language integral
    to the TinyMUSH subfamily of mud servers.  (See the rec.games.mud
    FAQ for more general information about muds).

DragonMUD 4201

Trippy MUSH - 7567 - not a mud/mush/muck/moo fan myself
but this might be the one that gets me addicted. [well, not, as it turned out]
this is a really interesting place! others that have been recommended to me
but which i have not seen are Cyberion City (michael.ai.mit.edu, dont know port
number) and Global MUSH (lancelot.cif.rochester.edu 4201). read
rec.games.mud if you're interested in this sort of thing

list of working MUDs - updated every Friday

and remember! Divination Web - seismo.soar.cs.cmu.edu 9393 - magickal themes


I know very little about IRC, but through the FutureCulture mailing list [see
"CYBERPUNK AND THE NEW EDGE"] I have learned of channels #future, #drugs
[featuring a LearyBot], and #CyberPunk featuring a CyberBot. Both the LearyBot
and the CyberBot also act as fileservers.
well this isnt true any more - I now spend half my time on IRC - try channels
#leri, #cIRCle, #mindvox, #future. telnettable IRC servers:
ircclient.itc.univie.ac.at 6668
cc.nsysu.edu.tw login irc
  bbs chatsubo.nersc.gov has a global IRC server [login bbs, then new to create
  IRC is also offered to users of the bbs at tolsun.oulu.fi login box, wait
several days for registration
Try I think alt.irc for the IRC FAQ.
Just in this edition of Hwbemail I will reproduce it:


Cthulu [sic]
    Contact: cthulhu-request@cs.qmw.ac.uk
    Purpose: A mailing list for discussion about *the* horror frp. CoC.

    Contact: cyberrpg-request@veritas.com
    Purpose: The cyberpunk mailing list is primarly for the
    discussion of cyberpunk role-playing games.  The discussion is not
    limited to any game system.  Subjects of a peripheral nature are
    welcome as long as they don't get out of hand.  There is one
    rule on this mailing list: the moderator gets to add new rules at

    Contact: flashlife-request@netcom.com (Carl Rigney)
    A mailing list for GMs of Shadowrun and other cyberpunk
    roleplaying games to discuss rules, scenarios, ask questions,
    make up answers, and similar fasfax.

Subject: You've been added to the pkd mailing list
To: pkd-adds@wang.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 23:20:39 EST

Everybody getting this message has been added to the PKD mailing list, as
requested (though some of you requested it months ago; I apologize for the
delay).  Welcome to the list.  In response to questions:

There's no material available by ftp currently, but this may become
possible at some point.

If you want to unsubscribe, or change your mailing address, send mail to
.  If you want to send something for
distribution to the list, mail it to .  The list tends
to stay quiet for weeks at a time, so if there's something you want to
post, please go ahead.
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
adolph-a-carrot-request@andrew.cmu.edu (not seen by me)
severed heads and other bands on the ralph label - there are a zillion
mailing lists devoted to various groups, i'm not gonna list em all, i just
like the name of this one - another fun name is jump-in-the-river-request
@PRESTO.IG.COM (sinead o'connor) (as always, not seen by me)

A.Rice@HAMPVMS.BITNET - anne rice discussion groupppppp
send sub requests to ngustas@hampvms.bitnet

audrey.levels.unisa.edu.au (
/pub/twin-peaks.timeline.Z - 5000 lines of blow-by-blow description

Black Adder quotes - yshah@lucpulit.luc.edu - alt.comedy.british

 -Dante Project         telnet library.dartmouth.edu or
   offers: Divine Comedy and reviews.  (Login: connect dante)

    Contact: shadows-request@sunee.waterloo.edu (Bernie Roehl)
about the gothic tv series

dead-heads@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu  Grateful Dead

douglas adams, galactic guide [alt.douglas-ad faq]

jarre-request@cs.uwp.edu / cs341a002@husky1.stmarys.ca ???

FWAKE-L  contact mokelly%IRLEARN.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu

PYNCHON - contact userdog1@cc.sfu.ca - userdog1 DOES NOT EXIST

sf-lovers-request@rutgers.edu (not seen by me)
elbereth.rutgers.edu SF lovers archive

voynich-request@rand.org - for serious discussion of the mysterious Voynich
  MS (also see below un FTP section)

ccu.umanitoba.edu /pub/simcity/simcheat.zip - speaks for itself

glia.biostr.washington.edu  /pub/queensryche  lyrics etc

"FIDO 1:124/4229" lot of files relating to filk, SCA,
   "Black Book of Locksley" etc

Thomas.Mueller@mixcom.com - email for Skinny Puppy samples list

[info concerning the debbie gibson newsletter, & grunge and indie lists
courtesy Newfoundland Puppy]
Debbie Gibson
> ...Any moderator can put you on the list, but the head
> guy seems to be Felix Ng, so I'd suggest using his email address for
>HWBeM ....
>     Felix Ng : fng@nyx.cs.du.edu

> To subscribe to the grunge-list type:
> ... in the main body of a letter, and send it to listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
> To send a message to the grunge-list, write it and send it to
> grunge-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu and the letter will bounce to every
> subscriber. Voila!

indie list
>Ah...! It's a weekly digest devoted to "indie" music - that is
>(generally) music found outside the corporate mainstream on small
>independent labels. Good source of info for that kinda of stuff,
>and a very loose editorial policy (no flames, try to keep stuff
>relevant to music, and mention major-label bands as little as
> To subscribe, contact Liz Clayton at lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu .
>To submit an article, send it to me at houk@athena.cs.uga.edu .
>For a FAQ and general info, contact Mark Cornick at mcornick@delphi.com .
>For back issues, FTP to cs.uwp.edu in pub/music/lists/indie.
>For those without FTP access, contact Sean Murphy at
>    skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu .

punk-list@cs.tut.fi - totally unseen by me, I think I inquired long ago & got
no response, but I see crosspostings from there on anarchy-list all the time

MAILLIST, BOOTHELP etc via mwilkenf - rare U2 live recording, Bruce hornsby's
1977 senior recital tape, strange pink floyd stuff, lots of dio in one, etc

*** RAVES ***
(mostly from alt.rave FAQ - none seen by me)

there is supposed to be a virtual rave, telnet sfraves.berkeley.edu 7283 I
think. havent seen it.

sfraves is apparently the biggie, subscribed to by people as diverse as TOPY
and the DEA.
sfraves-request@soda.berkeley.edu (San Francisco, Bay Area)
  - ftp archives at soda.berkeley.edu /pub/sfraves
socal-raves-request@uscd.edu (Southern California)
ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu (North/Eastern U.S.)
Minnesota rave list - mail ivan@staff.tc.umn.edu for details
UMD-centric list - mail cyberpun@wam.umd.edu
    Purpose: SFRaves is about the "rave" club scene in San Francisco.
    Even though it's locally focused, people from all over the world
    are on SFRaves.  It is an unmoderated list.
    Purpose: The NERaves list was started as a North Eastern United
    States/Canada equivalent of SFRaves.  The list provides a forum
    for people to discuss the "rave" music/club/dance scene.  For the
    purposes of the list, "North Eastern" is loosely defined as from
    Chicago --> East and from Washington DC --> North, including 
    Ontario, Quebec, and the Mritime Provinces.  People from outside 
    this area are welcome, too!  NERaves is an unmoderated list.

    Contact: netjam-request@xcf.berkeley.edu) Craig Latta
    Purpose: NetJam provides a means for people to collaborate on musical
    compositions, by sending Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI)
    and other files (such as MAX patchers and notated scores) to each
    other, mucking about with them, and resending them.  All those with
    MIDI-compatible (and other interesting) equipment, access to emailing
    and compression facilities and to the Internet and who are interested 
    in making music are encouraged to participate.
    Please email netjam-request@xcf.berkeley.edu with the subject line
    "request for info".

bpm-request@andrew.cmu.edu - DJing mixing music etc - "the DJs' e-list" -andy

soda.berkeley.edu /pub/sfraves/chemistry/probchild.Z
  Albert Hofmann's "LSD My Problem Child"
ftp.eff.org /pub/journals/ScreamBaby  scream-baby.xxx92 {sep, oct, nov}
flubber.cs.umd.edu /other/tms/drug-politics
cs.dal.ca ( /pub allegedly big cyberpunk archives can';t see em
cs.uwp.edu /pub/music/pictures/alt.rave -> mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
  alt.raver photos - nothing there yet

cs.uwp.edu /pub/music/pictures/alt.rave -> mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
  alt.raver photos - nothing there yet


I) The WELL (Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link)

You can access the Well by 	telnet
				telnet well.sf.ca.us
You can dial up:                Call for the number
The Support Staff:
                 Telephone (415) 332-4335, Monday-Friday 9-5 Pacific
                 Send electronic mail to 
                 Fax # (415) 332-4927
The WELL charges:
         -$15/mo service charge
         -$2/hr WELL use
         -$4/hr connect surcharge to a limited number of high speed
                at (415) 332-8410
                (hourly charges are billed by the minute)
         Fees for storage exceeding the initial alottment of 512K are
         -$20/mo for each meg (1024K) (prorated)
          Additional fees are charged for:
         -$25 processing fee to open or switch to a billed account
         -$18 service fee for returned checks
         -1.5% balance >60 days late charge
 The WELL credits:
         -The initial 5 hours of WELL use at $2/hr to all new accounts
         -$10 to each user mentioned as the first referral source
          by a new user
 Current billing options:
         -credit card (VISA or MasterCard)
         -direct bill or invoice

ii) MindVox Overture telnet phantom.com login mindvox
iii) LaUNChpad BBS   telnet launchpad.unc.edu login launch
iv) Nyx BBS          telnet nyx.cs.du.edu login new
  I wanted to put blurbs for Mindvox, launchpad and Nyx here but dont have
  them to hand as we go to press..

Who are Turing.ORG?


cs.uwp.edu /pub/misc/lyrics

purity tests, internet hunt [records / comments?]
usenet penpals news.ans

 -Fileserver via Email  mail smiley@uiuc.edu
   In body-of-message: Filesend: help  and on a separate line:  Filesend: list

for The Complete list of dxphobic dxsayings (for the calculus-fearing)

email version of Calligraphic Button Catalogue - apparently you can get
buttons bearing witty slogans on just about any damn topic - BEWARE! full
file well over 1000 lines of text

PURTOPOI list - contact ucc@mace.cc.purdue.edu
fast@garnet.berkeley.edu - SUB LEN

isae@iastate.edu - wants to tell you about 'netrek' - realtime network game

urbanites-request@psyche.mit.edu - send urbanites-request in subject line
urban survival (not seen by me)

vampyre   listserv@guvm.georgetown.edu

andy.bgsu.edu Unix Vote by Mail - not seen [can't reach it]

ccu.umanitoba.edu /pub/simcity/simcheat.zip - speaks for itself

penguin.gatech.edu  /pub/leri  the leri-l archives, all sorts of
  interesting original work, topical essays etc
next door is /pub/movies, in which some sort of movie rating scheme is

/doc/minsky/option.chapters  chapters left out of "The Turing Option"
  (Marvin Minsky and Harry Harrison, 192)

bbrigade@world.std.com - "anarchist stuff" - quote
langserv@hebrew.cc.columbia.edu  no subject - help

nic.ddn.mil renwick-hippilan-0.2txt

theory.lcs.mit.edu /pub/papers/Plotkin [COMPUTATIONAL THERY -UNSEEN]

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[unchanged from HWBE2.0 these files can be found at
slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com /pub/weirdness
red.css.itd.umich.edu /zines/weirdness]
-- look for future uploads of interesting stuff at these sites also --

Along with High Weirdess by Email I have recently upoaded the followig files
to the slopoke ftp site, directory /pub/incoming. They may have been moved or
deleted by the time you read this, but use archie to see if there are copies
left anywhere else.

ronell    Transcript of an interview with radical feminist
		Avital Ronell.

upwinger	Exposition of the "Up-Wing" ideology by futurist
		FM-2030 aka FM Esfandiary.

bush.con	Chapter from Jonathan Vankin's 1991 book on
		conspiracies, all about George Bush.

schismat	Tom Maddox writing about Bruce Sterling's novel

prescrip	"The Prescriptures" (from "The Book of the SubGenius")

stclair	 "Doug St Clair" (=Ivan Stang) reviewing "Three-Fisted
		Tales of `Bob'" in MONDO 2000

poison	  "Poison for the Heart" by Kevin Solway. Unlike the
		above texts, which are copyright and have been reproduced
		without permission, this work of philosophy is explicitly

Version 2.0 of the Scriptures of the Church of Virtuality/Reality
scripture.000 prefatory material
scripture.001 introduction to the basics of v\r
scripture.002 miscellaneous ideas and short pieces
scripture.003 general theme: the net
scripture.004 general theme: altered states of consciousness
scripture.005 Qix sees the world; "Diary of a Net Fiend"
scripture.006 countdown to AO v1.0; early CafeNet material from Pippin
scripture.007 transcription of insomniac tape by Qix, and Usenet stuff

as well as

evasion       The complete text of Celia Green's remarkable short book
                "The Human Evasion"
letters       "Letters Between Enemies", over a years' worth of
                philosophical correspondence
wit4wis       "Wit For Wisdom", compiled by Kevin Solway
drs4bob       Some words from "Doctors for `Bob'"

Stuff on the "Committee of 300" alleged to run the world
300a          Part I of "The Conspirators' Hierarchy"
300b          Part II of "The Conspirators' Hierarchy"
300gif        Diagram of the links in the Conspiracy

waves         Stuff from Waves Forest's newsletter "What Now"
thompson      Essays and poetry by William Irwin Thompson
mckenna       "New Maps of Hyperspace" by Terence McKenna
all24         Draft material for the novel-in-progress "Alpha and Omega"
moravec       Hans Moravec answering Roger Penrose
extropia      About the Extropian philosophy and mailing list
loopy         About quantum gravity, knot theory and other topics
[remember, see math.princeton.edu, /pub/fycfung/baezpapers for the real
archive on this topic]

re moot news
Actually - I just wimped out and got tired of collecting stuff. I know -