From email@example.com Wed Nov 22 16:50:31 1989
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Kurt Krueger, CHSRA)
Subject: Climbing letters to the editor (part 1)
Date: 21 Nov 89 16:06:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin
Since thing have slowed down, I pulled this from my archives. In 1982/83
"CLIMBING" published a set of letters I wrote. Some people say they were
CORRESPONDENCE II: THE SEQUEL
by Hard Rock
I edited a batch of letter several years ago that I told everyone that I found.
They were fairly entertaining and I used the money from their sale to buy
more climbing gear. I thought I could get away with another batch of
letters by saying these were all the crack pot letters that I edited out of
the first batch. Good intro, huh? You want to buy any of these?
We are talking quality stuff here.
One thing I want to try is to make this a no smoking story.
So maybe you could put in bold letters above this story: NO SMOKING!!!
I am sick and tired of topping out after 80 feet.
to drive all night to get to Boulder or the Gunks. I'm not
a young climber anymore. The situation is especially sad
The technology for improving this situation is already in
all from Colorado. Easy O placed on top of Son of Easy O could
be the contribution from the Gunks. We could take the best
>from everywhere. We could use the book of the 50 classic climbs.
conditions. My lawyer friend said there may be a law suit
Financing this thing would be the big problem. If one of
those Everest Expeditions would give up their funding we could
a Wall. Another possibility is to convince the Pentagon that
the armed forces need a climbing wall. A sure fire way to raise
Maybe equipment companies would buy a climb and name if after
We are really going to need the climbing community's support
on this one. Write to your congress people, AAC, climbing
The wall you build may be your own.
Sincerely Mabel Marble
move the boulder field to reveal more vertical rock. But with
that being some 400-500 feet high, I think it would be more
costly. Of course, if every climber took down a boulder after
a day of climbing, it might not be that bad.
I know the climbing community has a distaste for regulations
but one more is required. The situation of bike riding
climbers running down pedestrian climbers on approaches to El
Cap makes the following regulation effective immediately:
Be it known to all members of the climbing community, the
honorable Park Service through it's honorable agents,
known as Park Rangers will hereafter enforce a ban on
Mountain Bikes within 200 yards of the Cap.
I will thank you ahead of time for your cooperation.
Remember your Park Service: Better living through regulation.
mountains under his control are now for sale. But now with
Among many other shortages in today's society, I am
afraid I have to report that we are almost out of first ascents.
of climber talking. They were talking about who free climbed a
climb. According to my calculations we have 14,787 climbs left
n the lower 48. "Climbing" reports an average of 124 new
climb each issue, so you can see we only have enough climbs to
last until 2004.
What are the options? We could limit "Climbing" (or at
least Basecamp) to publishing 4 times a year (rather than 6),
be to have a voluntary restriction on the number of first ascents
any climber would do. Say five. We could get little coupon
books printed up. If a voluntary plan didn't work I'm sure the
climbs on the basis of better style I would like to rename
Mount McKinley. I did it semi-alpine, in much better style
than the preacher. I didn't have any firewood. From now
on McKinley will be KRUEGER ROCK, after my great aunt.
Just for the hell of it why doesn't "CLIMBING" start
an impeachment campaign against the President of the American
Alpine Club. We could make up charges against him (or is it
Bored in Eldo
Just a quick note to let you know that the President of
the United States signed a proclamation stating that March 14
to March 20 will be: Take a Climber to Lunch Week. Who says
the AAC doesn't do anything?
Other DC happenings: The Attorney General's Office
of the Taylor Falls (the Yosemite of the Midwest) Climbing School
and the Hinkley Ledge (the Taylor Falls of Ohio) Guides. This
experience. Plus the clients get cheaper rates (and I'm told a
even cheaper rates). With this merger we are looking for big
The Wisconsin Governor, Tony, has signed a bill proclaiming
Brinton's Crack as the "State Climb". The local University
climbing club has been working on this law for the past year
and a half. In the yearly report to the Alpine Club President
Andy Schultz said, "It took 500 person-hours but we did it. This
s a important piece of legislation and I think it puts Wisconsin
n the forefront of climbing and state symbols".
Also I wanted to let you know the support group for
climbers trying to quit climbing has changed their meeting
>from Mondays to Tuesdays.
The report is almost ready for rating of all the US's
The ratio picked to rate the climbing areas is:
> number of climbs @ a free rating(i)
- total climbs at an area
The area with a ratio of above 1.0, wins.
I was going to review Galen Rowell's new book about
Alaska but found that when I got to the store I couldn't
afford it. I didn't bother even to ask about the Asian book.
movie instead. The movie wasn't very good so I decided not
to write any review.
T. C. Bicky
We the makers of BE's unfortunately have to recall all
the shoes we sold from June, 1980 to September, 1981. Frank
His doctors are still trying to fine enough skin to graft
onto his face. Analysis of the shoe lace resulted in the
findings of sub-par strength/diameter ratio. That means they
are no good. Your local dealer of our shoes has been instructed
to install new shoe laces. This will be done, of course,
at no charge to the consummer. The easiest way for you to
check to see if your laces are defective is tie into your
climbing rope with the suspect shoe lace between your harness
and the rope. Take a 15 to 20 foot leader fall. If the lace
breaks, change it. Oh yeah, do this test close to the ground.
Steve Erickson, Marketing VP
I would like to report that there were no new routes
about. I was going to do a route on the 31st just so I had
thirty days. Too many drugs. Anyway, I'll try to get something
to report next month.
Kor Rest A Pond It
I'd like to go public. Yes, I'm the Climbing Avenger.
of chalk bags, but don't you see, I know what's best for
everbody. I'm not kidding. When I was in the CFC (Climbers
For Christ), I got closer to him then any of the other guys.
That's why I went to solo Everest.
Anyway I just want to say I'm really sorry about that
one guy. Up until he fell, it was really neat. The crowd
even clapped when I came sliding down the rope (I did it in
about 3 bounces) and removed the guy's chalk bag without even
about the "Climbing Avenger Striking Again". How was I
chalk bag and take a 40 foot ground fall. He should have had
more protection in anyway. I've been to the hospital twice
and I've given him his chalk bag back.
I just wanted all the little ones who still believe in
the 'CLIMBING AVENGER" that anyone can make a mistake. And
The Climbing Avenger
Play for more than you can afford to lose, and you will
learn about hospital care.
The wise one
Does a tree fall in a forest if no one is there
to hear it. And if a light is on inside a refrigerator even
f the door is closed, then does rock exist if there are no
climbers? That's about as wise as that junk "The Wise One"
call Boulder? Or Yosemite being Indian for "Big Walls".
Of the Gunks being Latin for "Vulgerians"?
I never believed any of the stories in this column
until it happened to me. I had just done the first pitch
of Double Overhang at Devil's Lake. As I was pulling over
onto the belay ledge (the big one) there was this beautiful
and I mean beautiful chick. Her face was the fairest I'd ever
"What took you so long?". Before I could even say "Off belay"
My belayer was yelling up to see if I was off belay. I
The rope slide down to the ground, leaving the protection
She was naked by this time and started to . . . .
Hey, what is this? This isn't Penthouse! What magazine
s this? Climbing. I must have gotton the letters mix up. Ah.
Got to go. See you later. Bye.
OK. If you guys don't want to spring for a climbing
a quarter mile in the CCC area on the east bluff. It would
only have to be about 70-80 feet high. That wouldn't cost that
much? Then we could climb year round like everybody else.
I am in shock that you printed that sex letter above.
You should have made every effort to locate the guy and find
out what happened. I've been checking out all the Penthouses but
Wondering in Ohio
used the expression "NP" in June of 1977. I used it to mean No
Hinkley today. I'll tell you another one of my sayings about
Hinkley: Hinkley Ledges: Chalk it, or leave it.
I just started climbing last year and am really getting
nto it. I have been reading quite a bit and just got done
Anyway the last chapter is this big interview about two guys named
Wunsch and Erickson. They make these guys look like heros.
Well. Personally, I'm apalled at Erickson's lack of ethics.
And further more I not only wouldn't even consider going back
to do the climb, as a leader or a second -- I won't even look
at the climb. I do chalk for a climb but I'm not one of those
lowly people that pre-chalk a climb. And I certainly wouldn't
those new lasar guns for gardening cracks.
The high and the mighty
nstruction books? When measuring a leader fall, do you go
>from where your head started to where you feet end up, or
When that joker (Tom Baker, Climbing #215) called HR a
"has been" because of his Conrad Linski Elbow and accused him
of rating climbs on his reputation, Baker has traveled into the
When Butterfly Hug Bumble Bees (a climb) at five ten. Baker rated
t 5.8 in his letter. I know it's only 5.7D. So does HR.
Baker assumed HR was rating the climb.
In fact, HR was responding to my question of: "What time did
you free Bumble Bees?". The five ten answer was 5:10 in the afternoon.
I writing in regards to what I consider the greatest
threat ever to climbing. Greater than pitons and chalk.
Greater even than Patagonia clothing and fashion. I am talking
about COMPETITION. And not just any competion. I'm talking
about the Survivial of the Fittest Competion. What is this stuff?
Climbers are supposed to be non-competitive. What's even worse, I
I feel that, like any amateur athlete in this country,
f these climbers can't make their money under the table, they
their climbing status. They don't call it FREE climbing for nothing.
view and would conduct themselves accordingly. Remember,
young people look up to climbers. We are the last of a breed,
the young, the upper class, participating in sports only for
the joy and an inner test.
If they refuse, the AAC should not let them climb in areas under
their control, not let them stay in the Teton Climber's Ranch,
not use the AAC library, and press the climbing magazine (and
t's own Journal) not to mention these climbers. Also any
their climbs) removed. Furthermore the AAC could press other
clubs (as the Sierra Club) to take similar actions and press
the manufacturing industry not to sell these people gear.
In the event these sinners repent(turn in the money), the
AAC could then do some goodwill projects, like give grants to
The DLFA as I understand it stands for the Devil's Lake Friends
Association (according to my best sources). This association,
as I understand it, does good deeds as: (1) Clean up trails and
the litter, (2) Help newcomers to the area get orientated and
the climbing trails back to the main trails. My source also
mentioned something about the Moral Majority and fighting
could fund stuff like that rather than a bunch of expeditions
So unless the climbing community bands together to
eraticate these types of Republican behavior, we will lose
the sport that we have made so pure. Next you see some guy
Real People or That's Incredible.
To the climbers of this great country. I want to let
you know I'll let you climb on my lands but you have to help
me out. If a few of you require some expensive rescue on federal
lands, I can submit a bigger budget for next year.
It a sad day for the climbing community. We lost Spokes
Kelso the other day. Spokes had a hard day of bouldering and
to operate her hand brakes. She went right into the path of a
beer truck (she would have wanted it that way). (I mean if it
course remember her best for her "Fashions by Fitzroy" show
Ralph of Manitowoc
contributions to the Best Dressed Selection Commitee (which
chose me in 1981).
It's true and I have to get it off my chest. There is
nothing more sexest than a woman's expedition. I should know,
I never thought my good looks would be a problem. My trouble
experienced hundreds of times in singles bars. The leader said
common practice I didn't think anything of it. I was having a
my nicely. Some mornings I wake up and there would be a piece
of chocolate or some other goodie in my boot. Because of the
night time activities, I was missing alot of my turns for leading
and carrying of loads. In fact, I wasn't acclimating very
me in charge of the expediton alcohol and had me move it into
Finally one of the women slipped up as I was coming into
the dinner tent. She didn't see me and was asking the group,
"Who wants the stud tonight?". The truth finally hit home,
keep by serving their needs. I felt so cheap. So used.
Well I left the expedition immediately. I heard the official
the expedition. I just wanted the truth to come out
Name withheld on request
How can I start this out? OK, I admit I was a little
a long time ago), up where it's an offwidth. Now you can
ask anyone up at Devil's Lake if Hard Rock can climb offwidth.
They will all tell you "no way". Well anyway, I figure this
climb doesn't know. So, I say, "Climb, I going to blast up
you." All of a sudden, I swear its true, the rock kind of
the climb. So I learned one thing: You can bullshit the rock.
I would like all my friends around the country to know that
I like to think of myself as a pretty ethical guy. I
and grew up with the idea of "the Climber as an Artist". Mr.
Robbins took a beating on that point so I decided to clear his
On a first ascent going up the left side of the North
Face of North Traper I painted several works of art. There
s some stuff about the animals we saw on the hike in. One is
of my parents (artists are sensitive people). A few pieces of
modern art (they aren't particularly good) and of course, a
few about rock climbing. This is a pretty nice route if you
follow the paintings. It took us 3 1/2 days with all the
Andy Or Hull
Did I ever get a great idea from my friend Bob Sierist.
You know how sometimes you can't let go to chalk up? Well,
Bob's idea is for the climber to have tubes running down the
arms connect to a squeeze bulb placed in the arm area and connected
to the main chalk supply elsewhere on the climbers body.
Then when ever chalk is needed, you simply squeeze the bulb
under your pit.
You could also have something hook up to brain waves,
or skin moisture but that would be kind of like putting too
much technology into climbing. Isn't it amazing how the best
deas are always so simple?
Keep on trucking,
Spokes Kelso and I were working on one very important project
I remember walking into the local climbing store when Spokes
buy their gear (few make their own) and every climber therefore
s dependent on his/her Gear Selecting Professional (GSP) or as
the general climbing public know them, Climbing Store Clerk.
Now I admit the government has yet to regulate the GSP's,
but I feel it's only a matter of time. So just in case they
might, we should jump the gun and organize this before they get
a chance. This may be sooner than we think. I had a call
>from the Commerce Department the other day. Somehow there was
a leak and the Commerce Department had in their possession a
memo from Spokes to myself dealing with GSP certification.
They were quite interested in the possibilities of regulation.
Fortunately the government moves very slowly so we can still
To drop a few names to impress you, besides our honorary
Tom Smart of Slush and Snow, Ken Wading of Eldorado Mountaineer,
Tofer McBain of Climbing Gear, Inc., and Kelly Thomas of The Altantic
Chrome-Moly and Fashion Works.
You probably are wondering what our qualification are:
- 5 years climbing sales experience
- A log showing 15 climbing sales per week over the
last climbing season
- Check out on a computerized cash register
- Recomendation of three customers who will say good
things about you.
- Use of the employee discount for no more than 15%
of your yearly income (no gear freaks).
- Gone climbing at least 3 times and once in the past
- A veteran of a dozen big gear shows.
- Pass a quiz based on the following instruction
books: "Climbing A Guide to Mountaineering"
by Ray Bridge
"Starting Mountaineering and Rock
Climbing" by D. Law
- Good working knowledge of buzz words.
- Personal Library at home of 50 current (< 3 yrs)
- Certification of Attendance at a "Bore-Tex, Myth or
- Hands on experience and knowledge of computer software
which matches climbers with gear, based on the
climbers attributes (size, strength, psycholog-
- Obviously you must have mastered the book: "How to
Win Friends and Influence People". Canadian
title: "How to Win Buddies and Influence People".
I know this letter is getting long but everything I'm saying is
of the utmost importance. If this thing takes off even I will be
As you can see our standards are the toughest in the world,
but we are playing for keeps. Remember, a climber is only as good
as his/her equipment. And the equipment is only as good as the
Gear Selecting Professional.
Our original group will review the qualifications of the applicants
for certification. We want the climbing community to realize
that 83.5% of our selection commitee had 72.8% of our qualifications
Nothing to hide here.
Besides serving the public, the climbing community, insurance
companies, manufacturing industries and the government bureaucracy,
We could get double digit hourly salaries, paid vacations and
medical benefits. After all we are professionals and should be compensated
as such. There is no reason why a GSP couldn't be paid
more than the owner or manager of a store.
We are having a special sale on membership for the first
There is one more touchy requirement. All bribes over $100 should
be handle by our headquarters (with 10% deducted for handling). I
think you will find we can get you a better deal.
[Gear] Association of Selection Professionals (GASP)